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Old 07-17-2012, 12:45 PM
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It's not what anyone says but the work you do.
No one will ever give you the chance to show your work if you look like a hobo mowing yards.. he doesn't look licensed, insured or any form of a legitimate business. If you don't care about your own stuff that you pay for.. how are you going to care about somebody else's that you didn't..
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Old 07-18-2012, 03:44 AM
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Your stripes are improving drastically! How long does that apt take you, its a cream/white one in one of your pics, looks like its done all with a 48" walk behind.
Have things been steady, picking up more, been slowing with the weather and everything? I haven't gained any new maint accts except my one full service client's neighbor came over to me last week and wanted my card and then hopefully a bid on everything, ill be mowing that place tmrw so hopefully ill be able to talk with them and get a proposal out to them, its easily a $250/month property and its right next door to my client which is only 2 miles from home so its very profitable.

Also, what has been your best ways of obtaining commercial properties?
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Thanks J, the apartment takes me alone about an hour and a half with trimming/blowing. With 3 guys it will take 30-45mins. Business is still going good with steady account growth weekly. That neighbor that came over and wanted the proposal is great to hear. I have a customer that did the same in the same neighborhood. Best way to get commercial propertys is word of mouth, strictly. THIS IS MY OWN OPINION.


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One more, how hard is it to turn around to head the other direction on a sulky behind a belt drive? I thought about putting one on mine but I figure jumping off to pull backwards to turn around would.be a hassle.
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Really depends on how heavy you are, I noticed that I have to stand on the absolute front of my sulky to get it going correctly. My weight is around 230 x/- , It is more difficult to do the full zero turns while mowing. I usually have to practice because there is always a small "island" of grass when I make a pass.


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No one will ever give you the chance to show your work if you look like a hobo mowing yards.. he doesn't look licensed, insured or any form of a legitimate business. If you don't care about your own stuff that you pay for.. how are you going to care about somebody else's that you didn't..
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very valid points, I will take that into consideration.
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:17 AM
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Not to bash you at all. Just look at it from your customers stand point.. they are paying you to make their properties LOOK great.. why not have your equipment look good.. you don't have to have the newest and greatest.. paint is cheap.. when my business was a little younger I had am Isuzu NPR that was 15 years old.. I would keep it washed and painted, etc and people thought it was brand new.. same goes for the trailers, mowers, etc.. all of my equipment looks pretty darn new but it was all used heavily.. as the men's warehouse guy says.. " your gonna like the way you look"
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Old 07-18-2012, 01:47 PM
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Thanks J, the apartment takes me alone about an hour and a half with trimming/blowing. With 3 guys it will take 30-45mins. Business is still going good with steady account growth weekly. That neighbor that came over and wanted the proposal is great to hear. I have a customer that did the same in the same neighborhood. Best way to get commercial propertys is word of mouth, strictly. THIS IS MY OWN OPINION.





Really depends on how heavy you are, I noticed that I have to stand on the absolute front of my sulky to get it going correctly. My weight is around 230 x/- , It is more difficult to do the full zero turns while mowing. I usually have to practice because there is always a small "island" of grass when I make a pass.





very valid points, I will take that into consideration.


Word of mouth hasn't yeilded me much, at all. I've been trying to contact realtors, property management companies, etc., that has just started this week so we'll see what it brings, my belief is that you have to be very aggressive and up front with trying to get commercial accounts.
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:29 PM
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Do you fertilize all/any of your accounts?
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:12 PM
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Word of mouth hasn't yeilded me much, at all. I've been trying to contact realtors, property management companies, etc., that has just started this week so we'll see what it brings, my belief is that you have to be very aggressive and up front with trying to get commercial accounts.
You have to do exceptional work to get word of mouth referrals.. a little above and beyond to get your current customers talking about you.. not saying you don't.. but obviously something is going on to not be getting that easy advertising
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:00 PM
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I'd like to say that I do. I get nothing but praise from most of my clients. The ones I hear nothing from are cheap a$$es that don't care about service and I have them because a quick couple cuts that are a half mile from a primary client's property that take hardly any time bring in some pretty good money.

Here's the link to my thread (not to steal from Derrell's) but take a look for yourself.
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That's good.. ask them to tell their friends and family.. most people will respect that request.. you could try offering an incentive.. couple bucks off or an extra service.. bush trim, etc.
Get yourself on on the web with Angies List, things like that.. many commercial customers look on sites like those for quality service providers. Best of luck!
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I'm thinking of sending out a simple flyer with invoices this month about a client referral program that knocks $20 off or something. I'm on google places and have gotten a couple calls off that (only seemed to be indians though that were cheap as hell and didn't get the work), I maintain ads on Craigslist because it's free and doesn't hurt to have them there, I landed a very good client off it this year and have done a couple thousand dollars in work from them, they're not cheap at all. I tried google adwords and all it did was cost me money. I'll look into Angie's list.
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:25 PM
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Not to bash you at all. Just look at it from your customers stand point.. they are paying you to make their properties LOOK great.. why not have your equipment look good.. you don't have to have the newest and greatest.. paint is cheap.. when my business was a little younger I had am Isuzu NPR that was 15 years old.. I would keep it washed and painted, etc and people thought it was brand new.. same goes for the trailers, mowers, etc.. all of my equipment looks pretty darn new but it was all used heavily.. as the men's warehouse guy says.. " your gonna like the way you look"
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No it's alright, I appreciate any feedback from other LCO's. Do you still have your Isuzu NPR? Good qoute haha.

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Word of mouth hasn't yeilded me much, at all. I've been trying to contact realtors, property management companies, etc., that has just started this week so we'll see what it brings, my belief is that you have to be very aggressive and up front with trying to get commercial accounts.

It will come around, things take time. If your aggressive you might scare them away, just be firm and to the point. Make it easy for them to buy your service(s).


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Do you fertilize all/any of your accounts?
65% of my accounts both res/comm. are fertilized by us.
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