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Old 05-04-2014, 02:46 PM
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Because of a thread I posted on lawn site I was personally contacted by Gravely corporate with an opportunity to fly to Orlando Florida to test the new Pro Turn 400 series!

They say a company is only as good as its employees. Gravely knows how to hire talent. Everyone I met and spoke with on and before this trip was awesome. They were honest, knowledgeable and genuinely good people. The type of people I like to surround myself with.

Gravely is owned by Ariens, a family owned privately held company. Almost all parts are made in house, even the pulleys. Gravely does not use distributors and works very closely with all its dealers and even landscapers like us. They will even help the companies it works with run more efficiently. All you have to do is ask!

When I arrived Gravely had a Pro Turn 452 waiting for me. The first thing I noticed was the fit and finish. It was amazing! Just as good or better than my Scags. The welds were perfect and the powder coat was like liquid glass. It was obviously assembled with care from the wire routing to the decals.

The next thing that caught my eye was the size of the frame and front end, they are massive. The deck is 7 gauge throughout including the baffles! Durability is not going to be a problem. I would say the 400 series is built better than it has to be. It reminds me of Kubota, what I consider industrial strength. No corners were cut, this thing is built like a tank.

The comfort is what is going to set this apart from the competition. I felt little to no vibration and the air seat was awesome. I was able to fly over bumps probably faster than I should have. The seat and foot platforms are isolated from the frame with rubber bushings. The control arms also have adjustable rubber bushings and I felt no vibration in my hands.

The Hydro-Gear 5400 was very smooth and quite. I asked a lot of questions about the Hydro-Gear and Gravely has almost no warranty claims and has run them for 4 years now. It is mounted lower than separate pumps and wheel motors to help with stability.

Gravely had left the irrigation system on for most of the day so I could cut some wet grass. I spent most of my time cutting as this was my biggest concern. I experienced no clumping or stringers. The deck stayed clean! The cut was beautiful on southern grass. Next they took me to a field with grass 8-9 inches tall. This would be the closest thing to northern grass. The x-factor deck had no problem with discharge and the grass doesn’t stay inside the deck to long. Similar to my Velocity decks. This was a huge relief for me as my concern was with the small discharge opening. Again the deck stayed clean. The x- factor deck has very good vacuum and discharge pressure. Even in the tall grass it didn’t need double cutting! The 24.5 hp kawi (formally 27 hp) had no problem in the tall grass. I honestly can’t say the x-factor deck will cut as good as the Velocity on northern grasses YET but I’m much more confident and willing to give it a shot. I will not lose anymore sleep thinking about it.

In conclusion I will be ordering a Gravely Pro Turn 452 next week! I will continue my honest review once I start cutting up here on northern grasses.

Gravely told me “We have one of the best warranties in the industry, but you won’t need it!” I have no doubt Gravely will stand behind their equipment and be there if I need them!

Enjoy the pics!!
Curious on what you gave for it compared to what they have been priced to me by my dealer?

I cannot scan through all these post pages looking to see if you posted lol
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Old 05-04-2014, 02:49 PM
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Curious on what you gave for it compared to what they have been priced to me by my dealer?

I cannot scan through all these post pages looking to see if you posted lol
Fleet price for me was $10600 for the 452 with the bagging system.
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Old 05-04-2014, 02:54 PM
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Fleet price for me was $10600 for the 452 with the bagging system.
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Wow guess their trying to rip me a new one just on 200 series 48'' zt hd they priced it off to me for $8500 nothing included 10 gauge too that's pathetic.

If I ever have a issue that requires a lift for service it's always you need another mower blah blah before service talk anything not requiring a lift I can fix by myself.

He will only give a trade in less than $1,000 for my 148z lol.

All other dealers are a hour away at least.
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Old 05-04-2014, 03:00 PM
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Wow guess their trying to rip me a new one just on 200 series 48'' zt hd they priced it off to me for $8500 nothing included 10 gauge too that's pathetic.

If I ever have a issue that requires a lift for service it's always you need another mower blah blah before service talk anything not requiring a lift I can fix by myself.

He will only give a trade in less than $1,000 for my 148z lol.

All other dealers are a hour away at least.
$8500 for a 200 series sounds about right, which has 7 gauge XF deck. Stay away from the ZT HD with 10 gauge deck. Its a great high end home owner machine but not true commercial.
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Old 05-04-2014, 03:16 PM
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$8500 for a 200 series sounds about right, which has 7 gauge XF deck. Stay away from the ZT HD with 10 gauge deck. Its a great high end home owner machine but not true commercial.
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10 gauge deck nothing included $8500 not xfactor deck either, if I am not mistaken was also a '13 model and DEMO lol
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Old 05-04-2014, 03:20 PM
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10 gauge deck nothing included $8500 not xfactor deck either
$8500 for a ZT HD? Thats crazy.

A 200 series is around $8500. I think he quoted you for the 200 series not the ZT HD. The 200 series has the XF deck and is built like a tank. The ZT HD is a home owner machine.
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Wow guess their trying to rip me a new one just on 200 series 48'' zt hd they priced it off to me for $8500 nothing included 10 gauge too that's pathetic.

If I ever have a issue that requires a lift for service it's always you need another mower blah blah before service talk anything not requiring a lift I can fix by myself.

He will only give a trade in less than $1,000 for my 148z lol.

All other dealers are a hour away at least.


ZT HD is a homeowner model that is why it doesn't have the 7 gauge deck
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Old 05-04-2014, 03:31 PM
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The first link is for the 200 series and the second is for the ZT HD.

http://www.gravely.com/en-us/zero-tu...o-turn-200-xdz

http://www.gravely.com/en-us/zero-tu.../gravely-zt-hd

The ZT HD is around $5000. The 200 series is around $8500.
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Old 05-04-2014, 03:54 PM
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ZT HD was 3rd from right in row so yes 8,500 and was 48'' deck, will drop in again this week and see what I get quoted should be interesting.

Price the 452 when I do as well, you have to live here to know the deal not really about bringing up in forums
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Old 05-04-2014, 03:56 PM
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ZT HD was 3rd from right in row so yes 8500 will drop in again this week and see what I get quoted should be interesting
ZT HD should be around $5000. But you shouldn't buy one anyway. Get a 100, 200, or 400 series. Or at the very least the Pro Turn entry level commercial machine which should be around $6000-$6500.
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