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Old 04-10-2012, 03:27 PM
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I'm yanking up some piss poor malibu lights. They were path lights for the railroad tie steps. Besides putting out less light than my IPhone they were buried in snow half the year. I've got 60 watts to work with. Originally I was thinking about putting two 20W spotlights on the pine trees on each side of the steps pointing at the steps. Now I'm wondering if I wouldn't be better mounting 4 10W lights underneath the rail on the left side. I'm using an existing 88W Intermatic transformer and 10-20W I'm using on a fountain not in these pictures. I bought an underwater Vista light for it.

American made is always my preference. I'm dealing with a condo association so I can't go crazy. Here is my thought. The malibus have that wire running through them. So if I cut out each of the malibus I can splice in a decent light under the left rail. If I do anything different I'll need to get some wire and run it differently but I am okay with that as well.
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Old 04-10-2012, 03:38 PM
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Something similar to this under the rail?
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Old 04-10-2012, 05:12 PM
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Are you trying to light the steps? How tall are the pine trees?
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Old 04-10-2012, 05:48 PM
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Yes just the steps. The pine trees are 20'+

While we are at it would you use the spread deflector in this fountain light?
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Old 04-10-2012, 07:58 PM
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here's a bench I did fimco, similar I think to what you're wanting. problem with the rail will be hiding the source. might led rope work? you could run a grove down the center of the rail and bore, or it might be even easier to box in the handrail.
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:39 PM
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Gregg suggested the led rope light as well. It doesn't really fit the decor and attitude of this place. I like the light on your bench? Brandon. Are those 10watt? What if I did three 20watt two on the left side at the top and near the bottom and one on the right side in the center. I could still run the wire mostly in the ground and come up along the back of the posts and do a little better job hiding the wire.
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:41 PM
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Any chance you can downlight from the trees? The effect will be better and you'll need fewer fixtures.
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:46 PM
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Yeah that's possible. Will I get enough light to make the steps safely visible?
2. 30watt?
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1: Stop worrying about your limited power supply by using LED lamps in what ever fixtures you choose.

2: Use post mounted fixtures to effectively light the rail / step feature. There are a bunch of different styles and price points on the market.
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Old 04-10-2012, 11:10 PM
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I'd look at LED with an equivalent to 2 35W lamps. In Kichler, I'd be looking at the 15742 (8.5W, 35*). This is the retirement condo, right? If so, you might need to add a 3rd fixture to get it bright enough for the residents since our ability to see in low light diminishes with age.
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