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Old 04-12-2012, 10:54 AM
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Some one is a little cranky today
and im sure we'll here him crying when he gets underbid by someone that didn't know better

on that note.
good luck with your bid but you really should know and understand your operating cost. im sure you will come in under our prices if you work by yourself

to bid this job just take your actual operating cost by the amount of hours you plan for this to take (keep in mind trash) tac on what you would like to pay yourself (AT LEAST $20 per hour rock bottom!!!)

add 25% to that if your hungry for work and kept the bid tight
and you should be ok

if your just getting started you could always raise the price later or just walk away it's not the end of the world

good luck!
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:56 AM
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Thanks, Maxkicker!
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:59 AM
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This sounds like the basics for bidding any job. If you don't know those then what's the point in owning and operating a business?
I understand what you say and agree to a certain point. I guess I'm just to dam nice. Hey we all have to start somewhere and learn. I know I had no help to start out and wish I did.
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:01 AM
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since i am starting out, my time on site might be more than others. i am obviously working on that. general numbers, if it takes me 1 hour for a property and i want to make $1 per minute would i charge $240 per month? the next guy, hell any of you guys, would charge this guy $120 per month.

this is my point. on a commercial bid, which i have never done, i would like to know if there is anything different vs a residential property to help me with the bidding. IE, cig butts, plastic, bottles, etc etc.. like someone else said, be prepared to pick up a lot. i haven't thought of that.

i almost forgot. if your not insured DO NOT bid this job
even if your carefull and dont ever throw a rock
hell even if you mowed without blades on the tractor
atleast once a month you will get a call from someone claiming you hit there car
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:01 AM
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my problem is that this is a side job for me until it takes off. i work 40+ hours a week in a different town, salary, different job completely. so it is harder for me to get work unless i drive by somewhere on the weekends when i am working or on my way home during the week. i only have 7 accounts right now, slowly building.

so "knowing my costs" is hard for me to figure out. a business plan has not been made, again, with not doing this full time, it is hard to figure out for me.
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:03 AM
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i almost forgot. if your not insured DO NOT bid this job
even if your carefull and dont ever throw a rock
hell even if you mowed without blades on the tractor
atleast once a month you will get a call from someone claiming you hit there car
I got insurance before day 1 on first account. good call though, thanks for the tip.
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:10 AM
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[QUOTE=orangemower;4379597]These threads crack me up. Do I get a percentage of the profit if I do the leg work? You want others to give you a price to do a job like it's suppose to happen. Do you think Burger King CEO's call up Wendy's CEO's and ask them to come up with a pricing plan for their food? If you can't figure out a price on two gas stations then you shouldn't be bidding on them. You need to learn to do your job and not ask others to do it for you.[/


There is nothing wrong with asking for help, But my man has a point we all know how hard it is to make a living in this biz. And we all know of those guys who get in to this biz because they think it will be a easy way to make a buck. This guy didn't even have a guess on what he would charge.
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:17 AM
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not to give you a hard time but without knowing your operating cost
you are wasting your time

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truck payment X amount of time used as side work probally 1/4
regular maint truck,trailer,equip
fuel x miles traveled for side jobs
insuranced (1/4)

now figure out the amount of hours you would be willing to do side work and
divide by the number above weekly??
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:38 AM
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some things i have tried to work with are

wifes SUV payment is 300 per month and use that for towing the 4 days per month
SUV payment - $40 per month
gas for tow vehicle ($3-15 per saturday)
gas for mower/edger, etc ($2-10 per saturday)
trimmer line($1-2 per saturday)
insurance ($400 per year)-($8.33 per saturday)
currently i have only 1 weekly account, 6 bi weekly. this is the "per saturday"

generally speaking i see about $14.33-$33.33 every other week.
maybe 10-12 hours per month working time including driving

im missing something.
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:05 PM
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I'm not into commercial that much, the bulk of my properties are residential. The one thing you need to realize about commercial properties is, for the most part, there is no loyalty, it is strictly business unless you have some kind of relationship with the owner/manager, which means they will go with the lowest bid, and, more than likely, ask for bids again next year, in which case, if someone bids $5 less than you, they will get the job.

I'm not trying to discourage you from bidding, just be aware that the owner probably is looking for the absolute cheapest job. From my limited experience, at least in this area, unless it is high-end commercial (professional offices, healthcare facilities, banks, etc) the going rates are actually less than comparable residential properties. This makes no sense, until you remember that probably every mower guy that pulls into those stations to fuel, has asked about the possibility of mowing. Few residentials ever have anyone actually knock on the door and ask for their business. Good luck.
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