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Old 05-08-2012, 12:08 AM
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What does the heat have to do with rebar? They said to do a drainage chimney and set the pit on base then pavers up to the edge. Just PL premium the blocks together
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got it. thanks for the advice guys



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Why do you set all of your borders before the infield? Seems like it creates a lot of extra work and room for error.
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:24 PM
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Looks good.

I've seen guys do this before and it baffels me to think about how in effiecent this has to be, along with those guys who set edgings first.

Can you accuretly set pitch with this method? I'm asking not bashing.

We grade out gravel, then layout strings and pipes to screed our sand letting every thing run wide, then mark soilder course and lay out curves with some 1/2 pvc pipe coupled together, found it is more fluid than a piece of snap edge.

The job we are working on this week is simillar, 16x35 patio with a 14' half circle bumped out of one side, we staked the center and worked from there, first laying out seat wall, and then setting main patio pavers, and cut a circle out to lay in a secondary paver, all useing the center mark. We are leaving out the fire pit for the last step, we are using a larger 24x24 paver in the circle so I felt leaving out the pit would give us more room the work.
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:33 PM
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I'm 23 but I learned this method from my dad who has been doing it for 30 years. I set the pitch on my borders, lay the brick, then play connect the dots in the middle. believe me, i see the way you guys lay pavers, cut the edge with a demo saw and hammer in the snap edge and I am super jealous of the time you save but I cant believe that snap edge holds up as long as brick and mortar. especially with the freeze/thaw cycles up here. there are 8" footings under that brick.

room for error? definitely less forgiving. I make sure my borders are very square so I dont end up with a little sliver along one side or something. Also gives us a straight edge to set the inner pavers to.

I also use the gas pipe screed method.

I lay out my curves with 1x4 AZEK boards, very predictable and smooth bends
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I question the same thing with the mortar and freeze thaw, I see you are in NY an your winters are worse than ours in IL. We have some issues with the snap edge if the job has been done late in the season, and the nails haven't had a chance to rust yet.
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