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Old 05-09-2012, 10:07 PM
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Post photos of the Hall tailpiece first.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:29 PM
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When Henry gets back with me I will.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:33 PM
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I might have a Moody head in a junk box, but if they're this unknown, I will auction it at Sotheby's
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Old 05-10-2012, 06:08 AM
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We were never disagreeing on the spanner so it's just a straw dog in this discussion.
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:11 AM
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Thing is, I remember what I install, and had my hands on a few of the brass bodies made by Moody, so I know that from the top, they are identical to a Buckner, and that they had a washer seal, like the older Buckner design. All the brass bodies eventually went to a 4-inch body height and a 2-inch popup. I think you want to doublecheck the tailpieces.

Didn't someone have an exhibit of dozens of different brass popups? Maybe a Moody head is in there.
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:51 AM
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That was Henry's display. He doesn't have a moody in it. Henry said the Buckner and hall were identical and he's smart enough to check the tailpiece. I'll get pics
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:09 PM
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The hex on the Buckner tailpiece might have been an aid to production, so maybe copies would have the same. Or maybe it was a bit of added weight to improve pop-down. I have some Imperial brass bodies for the coarse thread nozzles, and their tailpiece is all-round, just like the Weathermatic body it copied. Royal Coach changed the tailpiece to accommodate sch 80 nipples, so no more hex. I never did like to use those PVC nipples to set heads, so I can't quite visualize the Moody, and whether there might have been issues with fit.

Certainly nothing we have seen so far makes a convincing argument that Hall did not source all their product from Moody.

I wonder if an old R-Co catalog would have good drawings of Moody stuff.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:27 PM
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Boots if you can't look at the top of those two heads and see they are identical copies except for the lettering then convincing you of anything is pretty hopeless.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:57 PM
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Try to imagine any cast-brass sprinkler body that does not have a smooth top. How would you cast in the lettering and have it look any different than any Buckner or Rainbird or Moody? No matter who casts the head, the lettering will work out the same.
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:36 PM
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Try to imagine dealing with a stubborn straw building .....never mind. Find a friggin moody and prove something for once in your life.
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