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Old 05-24-2012, 11:30 PM
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SuperZ VX4 or Gravely 460?

I have a 2011 Hustler SZ VX4 60" and I am thinking on selling and purchasing a Gravely 460. What do you guys think good or bad move? I have always had Hustlers but these new Gravely 400's seem nice.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:40 PM
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Gravely hit the ball out of the park with the 400 series. It really is a game changer for the major manufacturers. If you demo the 460 you will want one!
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Old 05-25-2012, 01:57 AM
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Been running Hustler Super Zs last 12 years. I sold a 60" standard deck last fall and still have a 66" XR7 deck running. Just picked up my 460 today. Will be a couple of days till I get all the accessories and such on and get it out to mow. I'll be happy to help with any questions between the two once I get some real seat time on the 460. For starters I already know the 460 31 Kawasaki is more powerful than either my 60" Honda 24 hp or my 66" 28 efi Kohler, rides better, better deck lift adjustment, better ride, pto clutch and belts are protected, bigger tanks than new SZ, deck flex linkage instead of chain, real key, perforated floor plates instead of no slip stickers, cheaper. Verdicts still out about no grease fittings, may be a little louder even with the larger Gravely muffler, two deck belts.
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Old 05-25-2012, 07:49 AM
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Thanks mtmower, please keep me updated. I would like to know how it acts on ditch banks and steep hills. My SZ holds steep ditch banks great.
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:05 AM
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I have had my 452 for about a month and It still amazes me everytime I mow with it! It does great on hills and ditches. Here is a link to a detailed review I did on the 400 series. There is tons of info and pictures...

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=375000
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:19 AM
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Thanks mtmower, please keep me updated. I would like to know how it acts on ditch banks and steep hills. My SZ holds steep ditch banks great.
Sure will. Keep in mind I have my SZ tires worn down 1000 plus hours. I run them as long as I can worn so it doesn't tear turf quite as easy. The 460 will of course have new sneakers which will be 4 or 5 times more aggressive. The SZ use (or at least did) US made Carlisle tires. Gravely is using Taiwan made Kenda brand which IMO are as good or better with more sipping. The rear tires a just a smig smaller than the SZs. They're running a 24x11.5x12 instead of a 24x12x12. I'm running 12 PSI in the fronts and rears. Seems like all these ZTRs are coming with no-flats on the front which I'm not a fan of. They pick up grass clippings like a magnet and love to transfer them to hard surfaces. They also ride and handle worse IMO. I purchased the optional ribbed pneumatic front wheels (also Kenda).
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:46 AM
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Beav why are you considering the switch? I haven't had any time on a VX4 myself to compare.
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:56 AM
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I am having some uneven cutting issues with the VX4, I have leveled deck several times, checked blades, messed with scalp wheels, etc. It looks like the Gravely has improved on their machine and I want to try one out.
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Old 05-26-2012, 12:12 AM
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Yea. QOC and clipping dispersal is what made me start looking at other brands. I tried a couple of times to demo a SZ and hit a wall. Between cost and several threads on QOC issues I went with the first brand that impressed me over my early SZs. I'm somewhat limited to product where I live. No Scag. John Deere and Exmark full list and no demo. Demoed Walker Super B, Husqvarna PZ, and Bad Boy Outlaw.

So far I can tell you that the fit and finish on the Gravely is as good or better than Hustler. Being a darker paint fine scratches will be more apparent in the high gloss finish. The hitch kit I was told is supposed to accommodate a 2" ball hitch and it doesn't. I had to drill out the factory hole to 3/4" to install a ball. I'm guessing they did this for liability sake to keep excessive weight from being attached easily. The OCDC is different than any I've seen before. Well built but it requires you to have a rubber chute on to function which is something I'll have to get use to. I'm sure this again is due to liability. Not a big deal and something you'd have to get use to on any mower other than a Hustler is a separate parking brake. I was quoted $11,800 for a SZ 60" with the FX1000V. I got the 460 FX920V with every available option other than electric deck lift and chrome hubcaps for $12,500.00 using the fleet discount.
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Old 05-26-2012, 04:35 PM
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Been running Hustler Super Zs last 12 years. I sold a 60" standard deck last fall and still have a 66" XR7 deck running. Just picked up my 460 today. Will be a couple of days till I get all the accessories and such on and get it out to mow. I'll be happy to help with any questions between the two once I get some real seat time on the 460. For starters I already know the 460 31 Kawasaki is more powerful than either my 60" Honda 24 hp or my 66" 28 efi Kohler, rides better, better deck lift adjustment, better ride, pto clutch and belts are protected, bigger tanks than new SZ, deck flex linkage instead of chain, real key, perforated floor plates instead of no slip stickers, cheaper. Verdicts still out about no grease fittings, may be a little louder even with the larger Gravely muffler, two deck belts.
Both of your Hustler Super Z's are way underpowered.I have a 27 60 and a 30 HP 72 Super and have run other Supers with 31 Kawies and there is no comparo in power.

The 31 makes you realize that the Hustler motors they were offering to run the Super Z drive were to small because the 31 Kaw would operate the Hydros so much better as in do a wheelie with no problem when you engage the sticks. The torgue is so much better with the Kaw!

So make sure you understand this for your review.
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