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Old 05-31-2012, 11:47 PM
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You pay 2 guys and yourself for only 60 yards? I aint buyin it.

And these guys are lazy. 1 guy can do 60 by himself in a week.
No I don't mow with my 2 guys. I'm doing landscaping stuff. Only 2 guys on my mowing crew. But if I was with them we'd be done in 3 days i'm sure.
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Old 05-31-2012, 11:53 PM
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Update since yesterday. Talked to my 2 guys this morning and told them that before there done for the week they have to finish all the lawns first. I told them sat and sundays would be mandatory if they can't finish there work. My mowing crew can get 60-70 yrds done in 4 days usually, but the main problem isn't them being lazy, it's there mentality thinking that they can take off on weekends and not finish the mowing even if they had a day off during the week because of rain or a holliday. After I talked to them this morning my foreman called me at the end of the night telling me they did over 23 lawns today. (that's more like it). I guess telling them they have to work weekends if they don't finish made them have a change of pace lol.
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You pay 2 guys and yourself for only 60 yards? I aint buyin it.

And these guys are lazy. 1 guy can do 60 by himself in a week.





The number of yards mowed in a day or week means nothing.
The gross revenue is the better figure.


I've got commercials as do others that take most if not all day to do. I actually make more money on them than running up the numbers sheet because I don't have wasted drive time between jobs.
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Wait people actually take weekends off??
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After I talked to them this morning my foreman called me at the end of the night telling me they did over 23 lawns today. (that's more like it).
And the work was to your standard? This is where I'd take a hands on approach and follow up with random accounts so that another, more detrimental issue of quantity over quality doesn't arise.

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Old 06-01-2012, 04:32 AM
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what ever do you mean Charles?
I was thinking it must be top secret because nobody else can do it
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:14 AM
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So let me get this right, they should have it done in 4 days, but you want to punish them by paying them overtime to get it done in 6?

If so, you're losing money on Day 5 already, and losing your butt on Day 6.

Giving them a bonus for finishing them in 5 days when you're losing money is throwing more money away.

Shadow them, find out what is taking so long and either retrain them and explain to them what they are doing to your business or fire them. Or find a different compensation system that will motivate them to make you money.
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:19 AM
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Maybe this how it works in other parts of the country but,if I have a list of lawns to be cut for the day then that's all you cut. Then move on to other projects.I understand rain days then you double up on the route either the day before it rains or after.
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:22 AM
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You pay 2 guys and yourself for only 60 yards? I aint buyin it.

And these guys are lazy. 1 guy can do 60 by himself in a week.
This comment is ignorant. There are so many variables in this business that this isn't even laughable, it's downright scary.

Here's a couple:

Size of accounts
Type of mowers
Drive time
Trim time
Obstacles\terrain



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Here is what I have thought, I wonder if it's practical. I know what it takes me time wise to finish a day. Let's say just for easy math it takes me 5 hours to do 10 lawns that particular day. So my crew then gets paid 5 hours for the day and maybe I give them an extra hour for things that come up. If they go over, that's on them. If they get done in 5 I still pay them for 6
Drive time?

OP, if you are not giving your employees the information needed to do the job, how do you expect them to know?

Do they record start and stop times?

Do they (do you) know how long each job should take them to finish?
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:30 AM
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This comment is ignorant. There are so many variables in this business that this isn't even laughable, it's downright scary.

Here's a couple:

Size of accounts
Type of mowers
Drive time
Trim time
Obstacles\terrain





Drive time?

OP, if you are not giving your employees the information needed to do the job, how do you expect them to know?

Do they record start and stop times?

Do they (do you) know how long each job should take them to finish?
No, it's not ignorant because he provided all the information I needed to make an educated guess. He said he and a guy can get them all done by Thursday. Thus, these accounts are small to average size redidential yards. Simple.

There is no way this guy is making any money unless he's ripping people off, not paying taxes, not paying insurance, or all of the above.

Sorry, I'm just not buying it.
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