Register free!


Reply
 
Thread Tools   Display Modes
  #11  
Old 06-18-2012, 02:58 PM
quemador quemador is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: orange
Posts: 2
Since liquid HCG hit the market, has anyone seen any positive results for its intended purpose?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-18-2012, 04:31 PM
phasthound's Avatar
phasthound phasthound is offline
LawnSite Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Mt. Laurel, NJ
Posts: 4,087
We have been selling it for a couple of years now. It does reduce, not eliminate, crab grass. Still expensive and not as effective as chemical pre-emergent, but less costly and labor intensive than granular corn gluten.
It does not supply as much N or organic matter as granular corn gluten.

It is another tool that can be used in an organic lawn care program. It will not work well without proper seeding, mowing, irrigation and other cultural methods.
__________________
Barry Draycott

The nation that destroys its soil destroys itself.
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-19-2012, 09:16 AM
Smallaxe Smallaxe is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Central Wisconsin
Posts: 9,981
I agree with phasthound in that looking at certain items as tools in a wise comprehensive program as opposed to 5-7 step program that will take care of everything automatically with a certain amount of overkill...
__________________
*
Now that I know that clay's texture(platelets) has nothing to do with water infiltration, percolation, or drainage
,,, I wonder what does...
*
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-21-2012, 01:06 AM
quemador quemador is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: orange
Posts: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by phasthound View Post
We have been selling it for a couple of years now.
Great! hopefully you will be able to shed light on a question I have,
I ventured on the website marketing, selling this corn gluten product, but i could not locate any labels specifying the actual concentration of HCGM
per gal.

I would appreciate any help in clarifying the matter for me. Where looking for new products.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-21-2012, 09:44 AM
phasthound's Avatar
phasthound phasthound is offline
LawnSite Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Mt. Laurel, NJ
Posts: 4,087
Quote:
Originally Posted by quemador View Post
Great! hopefully you will be able to shed light on a question I have,
I ventured on the website marketing, selling this corn gluten product, but i could not locate any labels specifying the actual concentration of HCGM
per gal.

I would appreciate any help in clarifying the matter for me. Where looking for new products.
Are you asking about application rates, or the % of HCGM in the concentrate?
__________________
Barry Draycott

The nation that destroys its soil destroys itself.
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 06-24-2012, 12:43 PM
scientia scientia is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: pa
Posts: 17
How much HCGM is in a gallon?
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 06-24-2012, 02:52 PM
phasthound's Avatar
phasthound phasthound is offline
LawnSite Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Mt. Laurel, NJ
Posts: 4,087
Quote:
Originally Posted by scientia View Post
How much HCGM is in a gallon?
The only thing added to the concentrated HCGM is a dash of potassium sorbate as a stabilizer. Ingredients are EPA Exempt 25(B).

The mix rate is 1 gal concentrate to 3 gal water.
Application rate is 1 gal/K.
__________________
Barry Draycott

The nation that destroys its soil destroys itself.
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 06-25-2012, 09:12 PM
scientia scientia is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: pa
Posts: 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by phasthound View Post
The only thing added to the concentrated HCGM is a dash of potassium sorbate as a stabilizer. Ingredients are EPA Exempt 25(B).
The mix rate is 1 gal concentrate to 3 gal water.
Application rate is 1 gal/K.
Thanks for clearing up the matter for us.

After reviewing Iowa State website for the technical research
pertaining to CGM and HCGM used as a pre-m , a few facts become clear.

Both CGM & HCGM were measured out to identical weight(s), "I.e" in dry form first, for all the experiments. Results seemed comparable between them when used at a rate of 200 grams dry per square meter. Results showed HCGM to have less residual activity as well. So 200g a square meter would mean you would need 41 pounds to do 1000sf?

HCGM comes initially dry from manufacturer. It essentially has equal? herbicidal qualities as CGM but with the favorable attribute of being water soluble hence sprayable.

Im open to clarification.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 06-27-2012, 09:26 PM
scientia scientia is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: pa
Posts: 17
Apparently no vendors wants to talk shop on this subject? Was hoping to get some clarification whether my calculations were correct or skewed.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 08-08-2012, 02:52 PM
BR Green BR Green is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 6
The drought situation in the corn growing states are causing massive crop loss. Corn futures are rising quickly so all corn products will have price increases. My supplier was saying that we might see 40# bags up to $30.00 by next year. We're getting them for $12.00 each right now.

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...30-708976.html
__________________


Organic Lawn Care Services by BR Green
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1998 - 2012, LawnSite.comô - Moose River Media
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:28 AM.

Page generated in 0.08345 seconds with 7 queries