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Old 06-25-2012, 09:49 PM
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Take note of that mix then. RoundUp by itself is not guaranteed on bermuda.
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Old 06-25-2012, 09:54 PM
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Take note of that mix then. RoundUp by itself is not guaranteed on bermuda.
Does that mixture tend to smoke Bermuda on the first application or are you still making multiple applications to ensure that it is smoked? I am familiar with RU and fusilade as I use them but what is the third chemcial and roughly what is its cost.
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When common is fed with about 1 lb of N per month and mowed at 3/4" with a reel it does not look bad if that is 100% of the grass. It will not look good if it is mixed with other grasses, mowed high and/or full of weeds.
Sure, but common here is mowed high, mixed with many other grasses, and full of weeds.
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Old 06-25-2012, 09:57 PM
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Sure, but common here is mowed high, mixed with many other grasses, and full of weeds.
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Same here...and thick unsightly leafs.
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Old 06-25-2012, 09:57 PM
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Even hybrid bermuda or one of the many cultivars of zoysia will look hideous when it is starved and cut with a rotary mower.
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:07 PM
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Even hybrid bermuda or one of the many cultivars of zoysia will look hideous when it is starved and cut with a rotary mower.
I can only say that rotary cut Bermuda lawns are acceptable..not great...not even good...they might be good if leveled, but every single bump turns those spots brown unless you continuously raise the deck height, after which the lawn is two inch brown stems with .25-.5" leaves. They fit the budget for most folks around here which is sad because I could really make some of my customers lawns look exceptional if they would open up their pockets a little. It would also help them get the most put of weed/fert program.
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:56 PM
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How true. It has been my experience that due to the factors I mentioned, it is not worth it for me to touch a lawn not cut at the correct height of cut. Can't save st augustine that is cut at 2" and can't keep bermuda or zoysia truly green and weed free at 2" either.

Funny someone should mention soccer fields kept at 2" with a rotary mower. The city of Honolulu has been maintaining their municipal sports fields like that. Right now, there is less than 25% bermuda, the rest is dallis grass, goosegrass, and eragrostis. Easily controlled with a heavy fertilization program and a Revolver/Celsius martini, followed by a Sencor shooter. But the fields need to be cut at 3/4" with a reel to scalp out the weakened weed grasses.
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:11 AM
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Ok Guys, here are my stats from the professional.....

Lawn size: 11450 sq ft ( a little smaller than what I was thinking).
Shrub area: 500 sq ft.
damaged lawn 6,150 sq ft.

Tactic. Fertilize and Aerate the lawn keep placing down preemergent weed control, insect control, etc.. Will take a long time.

that will cost approx 135 per month.

We won't mention my white-fly here

Ok, your thoughts?
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:24 AM
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135 a month for chem service plus your mowing service is going to add up quick. Unless you plan on banning the kids from the lawn ,recovery of the SA will be very long in coming. I am sticking to my proposal.
One other note on SA. It is not very frost tolerant. Several years ago we had a long, cold winter and many entire yards of SA died. Bermuda simply comes out of dormancy. Prior to that you can spray anything green (weed) in the dormant Bermuda with Roundup and start the season weed free with no damage to the Bermuda.
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:28 AM
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Again I think Patriot has it right!
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