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Old 06-26-2012, 09:11 PM
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Most of the stuff I would need it for would be month old pasture grass but then be able to get through it at 5 or 6 MPH and who cares if a liitle is sticking up.

That is the thing why I would want more than a 37 Kaw,I would want to drag the pull behinds onto slopes and that requires more power.

Why cut 6 Ft at a time if with the right mower you can mow 18 to 30 feet.And if the slope is to much for bringing the pull behinds along you just drop some of the units to make it work and then hook them back up when done with the area and move on.

Of course this is for serious big jobs and alot of stuff for the county and state is huge.
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:44 PM
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The 37/60 could get through your grass no problem and easy 5 or 6mph, probably much faster than that!
Way I see it, your looking for quantity, not quality. Do the new SZ come with a RD deck? I cant remember but that may be something to look into as well. If I did road side cutting, I would look more closely at RD for sure.

Im sure the 37 SZ would be able to drag some decks behind it, its just the slopes you may have issues with. But then, you could just un hook the tow decks and smash out the slopes quickly with just the rider.

Another option for you could be a JD out front. They have a very high hp turbo charged machine.
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:53 PM
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Ditto........
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:55 PM
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Your mower with the torque wheel motors is what would be the ticket. They should make it. I believe they do do the RD deck.

What was the deck in the video that was connected from the side with the drive to make it work?
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:59 PM
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Your mower with the torque wheel motors is what would be the ticket. They should make it. I believe they do do the RD deck.

What was the deck in the video that was connected from the side with the drive to make it work?
A flail deck!
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:53 AM
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The new SZ covers most of the points ie, industrial pumps n wheel motors, low CoG etc.
I dont think a 2 speed is better than the current system. More stuff to fail!

For industrial use even the deck would probably be fine but (at least for me) not great on nicer lawns. The front skirt/baffle can raised high for very rough stuff and lowered for nice turf but would be good if they made it an easier thing to do between jobs.
The pumps etc could easily handle larger ATV tires but yeah, dual tires for really steep stuff but then what about a self levelling seat platform? Hustler had one on the ATZ.
Get some swing away blades made up for high risk situations or look at these vids with a SZ and X1 with flail decks...
http://youtu.be/G_Z3CffLBGc
http://youtu.be/zcobhqn3IU0 or
rear discharge... http://youtu.be/nOI8ITBlJOM
Ability to quick changed decks would be nice and maybe a shaft driven deck.

The hp ratings have changed so I would like to see approx 40hp efi/dfi under new rating system.
The ROPS need to be sorted as is useless at the moment and belts upgraded.

Basically, the new SZ is a very good, heavy duty mower and is pretty damn industrial. Just a few changes and tweaks and its what your after.
I never thought about quick change decks but that is a good idea,you are already there with the stock set up, I bett I could change my deck out in 30 minutes alread but if you had quick release pins on the chains you could cut it down to 15. A belt drive is no problem for this either a drive shaft would not be necessary.

Nobody makes a good clean pull behind either, big tires with tractor tread like 16 to 20 inches in diameter with a solid frame and just 4 chains to hang a mega deck with a high powered motor and just adjust the height with the 4 chains and pins hanging the deck.

Real simple, clean, powerful and tuff with big tires ! This thing would mow some chit and cut time down like major major on big open jobs and would be so simple to repair.

You would just have a telescopic or fold out stick on the front of the mower with a flag on each end so you could correctly judge your distance end from end so you would not crash into anything on the side.

It would be the bomb and make the big tractor look stupid and be much more versatile, gas usage would be the major drawn back but it would make up for it in simplicity. You would want carbureted pull behinds fuel injection would be to complex and susceptible to moisture and failure in rain conditions on a unit like this.
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:03 PM
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And one last option on the pull behinds,they would have an electric brake option on one of the axel's of the unit wired at the ZTR with a second pedal on the Z to operate and apply it in case you get into trouble on slopes.
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:28 PM
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I just want scag to put winches on there zero turns. Im tired of getting stuck and putting them on my mowers. I want it to come from the factory that way. the cheapest winch is only 60 bucks on ebay
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Old 06-27-2012, 06:29 PM
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Definitely a Z needs a winch + a jacuzzi with a hot tube and bar would be nice with a couple hot bit ches to go in it.
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:09 AM
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This would not be for finish mowing,INDUSTRIAL MOWING. A deck designed for bush hog style stuff were you could lower the front baffel for a finish cut.

You could do a light duty cab with AC but that would be pricey, if you got it stuck 1 or 2 guy's could get it out with no problem. You could do a all wheel drive as well but then you are ruining the beauty of the machines simplicity and price.

You could build it for 15000 $, a large tractor with a cab is what 100,000 easy?

It would be a specially designed unit from the ground up, the cutter ZTR would be 72 inches and then you would pull up to 4 or more 500 pound 25 to 30 HP 72 inch cut pull behinds for a total of around 30 feet or more in 1 swath.

Then you just unhook the pull behinds to do steep grades as you are going along and you could also have a tiny trailer trailing behind in the middle of the unit with a 48 Hydro walk behind with dual tires like the Scag option just in case you run into a area that is to narly to ride as well as have weedeaters on the trailers as well.

A complete all in one unit that one man can use to do huge areas like quick! All for under 30 to 35 grand!

I may have missed something, how do you compare your design of ~15k to a tractor that costs 100k? For something in the $30 k you can get a 4wd tractor with the tires set out wide - so it can handle any steep hill you want - and stout enough to pull any kind of mower combination you want. Oh, and it's powered via the pto not the belt, use those on the mower.

No, it won't be a zturn, but if your towing something that's the last thing you want, coming down a hill with a load behind you. They already use these set-ups on some golf courses and airports.

What kind of acreage are you doing to justify these large mowers?
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