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Old 07-01-2012, 09:22 PM
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In Cal, the only problem I can think of is when it gets hot. Otherwise, if there is total control of the soil and irrigation, even that is survivable. I thought I had it bad until I found out about how most people on the forum have to manage non irrigated cool season grasses. That would drive me crazy.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:24 PM
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He is talking about Turf Type Tall Fescue growing in a dry climate where he has total control over irrigation and probably even the soil it was planted on. Not an overseed with rye.
Yes, that is TTTF with total control over irrigation. Water is a PGR too. As far as the soil goes, it is your typical construction native trash soil. BTW, that fescue is deficit irrigated.

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Old 07-01-2012, 09:26 PM
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That is what I thought. TTTF also has a low requirement for fertility. Most people get into trouble with too much N with TTTF.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:29 PM
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Deficit irrigation is one of the ways I keep bermuda and zoysia from needing twice a week mowings. ET here is 1.25" per week. I supply 1" or less.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:35 PM
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Yes, that is TTTF with total control over irrigation. Water is a PGR too. As far as the soil goes, it is your typical construction native trash soil. BTW, that fescue is deficit irrigated.

Profile of that turf.


I would take that over what is called soil here in a heartbeat.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:38 PM
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I would take that over what is called soil here in a heartbeat.
At the time of that pic, that soil is the result of about 16 years of careful management. Then last year it all went to hell in a hand basket as a result of heavy construction traffic. Much of the soil in the valley is class 2, class 1 if irrigated, which does make management somewhat easier, even if it has been farmed to death before it was built on.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:40 PM
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Our winter overseed with PR is about as trouble fee as you could ask for.

Even at peak ET, as high as 2 inches per week we still run at 1" of water but the lawns do not look too good but average
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:43 PM
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Growing grass is its own soil conditioning and aeration mechanism. I have almost all Class 2 soils with serious chemistry issues. I love Class 1 soils not layered with Class 2 soils because those are the sites fixable with compost.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:49 PM
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I have no clue what class around here or what I have but calling soil after the home builder gets done is a stretch
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:51 PM
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I told you how builders ruin the ground for support of plant life. Many people have been taken by that move. Soil testing tells all.
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