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Old 07-14-2012, 08:31 PM
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When humans live out of tune with nature I agree they are indeed invasive,
just ask the Indians.
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:32 PM
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I have an argument when organic is dictated based on politics and paranoia. When science is dismissed in favor of an agenda.
I wholeheartedly agree!

In addition I have an argument when chemical usage is dictated based on profit and politics. When science is dismissed in favor of another agenda.

When the vast majority of us allow the conversation to be held in the terms of extremists we will be ruled by them. I think it's best to concentrate on what we have in common and use that as a foundation to build on.

Now, weren't we talking about horticulture?
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:37 PM
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What I posted previously relates entirely to the discussion of horticulture. To me, there is nothing natural about horticulture, be it producing crops or maintaining landscapes. If you want natural, let what grows grow and leave it at that.
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:48 PM
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What I posted previously relates entirely to the discussion of horticulture. To me, there is nothing natural about horticulture, be it producing crops or maintaining landscapes. If you want natural, let what grows grow and leave it at that.


I doubt those tree huggers want to be hunter gatherers. On the main land we have better native plant selection.... we can practice xericape and such but in AG that is not really viable.
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:49 PM
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I doubt those tree huggers want to be hunter gatherers. On the main land we have better native plant selection.... we can practice xericape and such but in AG that is not really viable.
Then they had better get real about pushing organics.
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Old 07-14-2012, 09:05 PM
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Working the land is totally natural for humans, you can just ask God on that subject.
It's the methods we practice horticulture with that should define whether or not it is natural.

Just saying...
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Working the land is totally natural for humans, you can just ask God on that subject.
It's the methods we practice horticulture with that should define whether or not it is natural.

Just saying...
under that premise, everything we do is natural, being part of nature. How does that jive with your statement that we are working outside of nature or what not

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When humans live out of tune with nature I agree they are indeed invasive,
just ask the Indians.
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Old 07-14-2012, 09:28 PM
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Okay let me try to make it clearer for you, work the land in tune with nature.
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Old 07-14-2012, 09:32 PM
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Things like mono culture, GMO and man made poisons are not in tune get it?
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Okay let me try to make it clearer for you, work the land in tune with nature.
Nature can be very brutal at times.
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