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Old 07-28-2012, 10:04 PM
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Ok not gonna lie, i stumbled upon this forum while just trying to read up on some lawncare literature. I must say I am completely impressed with the idea of selling lights/setup and breakdown of holiday supplies just guess im a day late and a dollar short. In order to offer these types of holiday decor im guessing that you dont need to be an electritian however what type of decor do you guys offer? I would think that buying lights at homedepot would be amateur to you guys but, for fun lets say i did go that route. Would i be renting these lights out to them, so as to continue putting them up each year, or selling them and installing/breakdown outright? 100 white lights at the bigbox improvement store runs around 20 bucks (says 24ft), how much upsell and labor installation ? I guess ill stop right there, anyone able to enlighten me?
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:18 AM
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I'm new too, bud; but come on...think it through. How can anyone tell you how much to charge to put up a string of lights from home depot??? Do we know your market? or your business expenses? Or where you are installing them? (on a deck or 3 stories up). If you are going that route, I would just charge your labor rate and add the cost of materials with a little markup. Personally, I would say do it big and professionally or wait until you are ready to invest in it.
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:59 AM
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OK, first and foremost, if you are gonna use the walmart/home depot lights, don't bother. The quality is night and day. You are comparing a Cadillac to an Escort like that. Not to mention you will most likely be chasing all over the place trying to find the cause of your lights being out etc. The 24 foot price may sound like a great deal, but the old addage of you get what you pay for really comes into play here. For example, you get c-9's for a roof line, 100 foot long. Now you go get 4 walmart/home depot stringers, not only did it just cost you $80 plus tax, fuel to get there, time labor so call it $100. You now have to worry about the 6 different plugs for moisture access, you are also shot 4 feet on your customers display. Imagine charging some one say $350 for installation, removal, storage - which sounds like good $m but a display that is 4 feet short. Not to mention you are going to need clips, leads, a timer etc. This is NOT a business to start with that mind set. Myself, I am going to get say $750 for the same job, my display is going to go the full 100' be very neat, and most of all, make the full run, bulb to be found every 12" beginning to end. Now take into consideration the service call. What is labor going to cost to go to the customers home, figure out what the issue is, including access the roof, diagnose the issue, then go get what you need to repair it, return, again access the roof, fix the problem and hope it doesn't happen again the rest of the season.

If you are really going to do this, at minimum read this forum through several times, then look at the companies such as Holidynamics, CDI, Brite Ideas etc and figure out who you believe has the better value for hat you are going to do. You need the right training, the right product. A nice living or end of the year bonus can be made with offering this service, but it is just like building a house so to speak. If you build a beautiful home on a not so good foundation, you are going to end up with a not so good house when all is said and done. Remember, one pissed off client will wipe out 10 happy ones.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:30 AM
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So the c9 1000' is 317 from christmas light ect, what type of extension cords should i be running that would be able to sustain the snow/ice/cold? They say you can cut these up without destroying them? I understand i am completely naive but im just trying to ask the right questions and get the correct information that i need in order to try to offer this holiday decor service like you guys. I know that i may not be the best right away and i understand that i want to do a great job that will may the customer happy I just need to figure out what i need in order to achieve that.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:47 AM
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What you need the most is information. The info in this thread of unbelievable. There are discussions of every topic you could think of.

As far as being able to cut them, absolutely. You cut to the length you need, put on a gilbert plug and you have a "custom set." But that is just the beginning. You have to understand amp load, voltage drop etc. There are endless companies you can buy from. I can honestly say, I don;t recall getting anything from Christmas Lights Etc. There are products that are unique to companies such as Holidynamics with their light links - really cool, the mixed noble garland etc. Light Links are really cool, but do not do well here in my market.

I am not going to pitch one company to you either way, but it would benefit you to contact the (are we still referring to them as the big 2). I am affiliated with Holidynamics. If you contact them, you are going to want to talk with Mike Marlow. (You can search Holiday Bright Lights as well and you will see an abundance of info on this thread. It is the same company, they just under went some reorganizing and part of that was a name change.) They also offer some great training. However, if you are more into the C-9's as I am, they are not really big into them. They offer more of a specialized line, ie light links and such. check their website out you will see what I mean.

CDI (Christmas Decor Inc) is more the c-9 company. They offer some really great colors, including LED, and from what I have read here, some of the best training available, but they are a full franchise and expensive to become part of.

Brite Ideas, well, I will just say that when I was at their show room back in 2009, I was not impressed and will leave it at that.

I also deal with Christmas Designers Inc. I like the response I have gotten from them with situations, and I like their products. They also offer a book on starting a Christmas Lighting Business, $200.00.

As I mentioned, lots of info here, and most likely enough to answer all of your current questions, and in the mean time, create many many more. I would also suggest looking for threads that Dave G and TurfHokie have either started or chimed in on.
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:12 AM
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I think that the most difficult part for me starting out (obviously the lack of knowledge) would be understanding voltage and how much draw the lighting takes from it. amp load, voltage drop is foreign to me. Another challenge would be actually installing them @ 2nd stories and such. This book you speak of, is it worth the investment? Will it be able to get someone from no-nohow to get up an go ability? As far as franchising /w lighting companies am far from that and not sure if thats really what i would be going for. I guess i had the idea that if i could attain a certain degree of knowledge that i would offer holiday decor (with a limited selection) to customers who express interest.
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:32 PM
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The book I really can to speak of, I just know of it's availability. I went to the HBL training, and truthfully, I dropped $25k all in all the first year. That includes all the supplies, the flights to and from Nebraska, hotel etc. Of course all my trucks are lettered, I have an array of ladders, and the necessary small hand tools. As I mentioned, there s alot involve din doing this the right way. It is not just a couple months of attention, I generally finish up my removals and storage the end of January, beginning of February, and Then by March am already looking at the next season.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:56 PM
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If you just want to test the waters a bit without a lot of investment, you might try installing customer's lights for a season. There are plenty of people looking for someone to hang their lights. I turned down a ton of calls asking for that last season.

You will have very little investment and no long term obligation. If you like the business, do it right the next season, if not, just don't offer the service again.

I would stay away from selling discount store lights.

Whatever you do, definitely take time and go back several years and read the threads on this forum. Several years back there was a guy named DeepGreen I think who asked a ton of good questions. David, Hotrod and Hokie patiently gave a ton of great answers. Definitely find those threads.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:27 PM
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If anyone is interested in doing any print advertising, check out A'Deas Printing (www.adeasprinting.com) We have different innovative ideas for Advertising and are pretty competitive on pricing. We have specials right now on our door hangers and even some direct mailing. We have designers on staff that can help with designing your piece that will look professional and still eye catching. If you want any pricing or have any questions let me know! My name is Glenda and you can reach me at 1-866-778-4254 or shoot me an email any time at glenda@adeasprinting.com
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:53 AM
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I'm pretty excited about offering this new service, but a little nervous that it may be hard to drum up jobs. I'm gonna hit the Chamber of Commerce members hard, do signs, and an insert in small local newspapers.
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