Plant Selection for hedge material in full shade

[easy-lift guy]

Originally Posted by cgaengineer

Hawthornes get really thin in shade...especially that amount of shade...they are disease prone as well.
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Any problems with Viburnum suspension?. In spite of any disease issues which are treatable, I have used and seen Indian Hawthorn under similar growing conditions. Never lost any plant material, but I was responsible for the landscape.
easy-lift guy

[cgaengineer]

Originally Posted by easy-lift guy

Any problems with Viburnum suspension?. In spite of any disease issues which are treatable, I have used and seen Indian Hawthorn under similar growing conditions. Never lost any plant material, but I was responsible for the landscape.
easy-lift guy

They can be treated...but you have to continue treating them.
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[easy-lift guy]

Originally Posted by cgaengineer

They can be treated...but you have to continue treating them.
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And your point is?. Considering the choices available, as long as the customer
has been informed as to what issues there may be, a care plan can be formulated and executed if need be. And of course there are also silk florials
available with no know insect or disease problems.
easy-lift guy

[RussellB]

As much as I hate maintaining Wax Myrtles, they should do well in shade. Not a high end plant but very dense.

[Florida Gardener]

Originally Posted by cgaengineer

Hawthornes get really thin in shade...especially that amount of shade...they are disease prone as well.
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ya, def wouldn't plant indian hawthorne in mostly shade....

[cgaengineer]

Originally Posted by easy-lift guy

And your point is?. Considering the choices available, as long as the customer
has been informed as to what issues there may be, a care plan can be formulated and executed if need be. And of course there are also silk florials
available with no know insect or disease problems.
easy-lift guy

My point is hawthornes are no good, diseases prone and will be even worse in an environment not suitable for them. The require constant fungus treatments that come at a cost...

Put the correct plant in the correct location. I'm not knocking you...just suggesting another plant...which plant...idk.

http://okeechobee.ifas.ufl.edu/News%20columns/Indian.Hawthorne.htm
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[Florida Gardener]

Originally Posted by RussellB

As much as I hate maintaining Wax Myrtles, they should do well in shade. Not a high end plant but very dense.

Don't agree with this either....i have seen some in part shade do crappy.....

Guys, there are plenty of plants that work well in shade...they just aren't going to be formal type hedge plants...

I don't like installing stuff that "might do well", or will "work ok."

[Florida Gardener]

Originally Posted by cgaengineer

My point is hawthornes are no good, diseases prone and will be even worse in an environment not suitable for them. The require constant fungus treatments that come at a cost...

Put the correct plant in the correct location. I'm not knocking you...just suggesting another plant...which plant...idk.

http://okeechobee.ifas.ufl.edu/News%....Hawthorne.htm
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I have always let the hawthorne's out grow the fungus....it never kills them.....remember, they are a drought tolerant plant, so I would think most fungal issues come from over-watering...

[RussellB]

Originally Posted by diamondlandscaping

Don't agree with this either....i have seen some in part shade do crappy.....

Guys, there are plenty of plants that work well in shade...they just aren't going to be formal type hedge plants...

I don't like installing stuff that "might do well", or will "work ok."

Wax Myrtles were planted in the back of my property prior to my home being built. The area is 95percent shade and the myrtles are thriving. I trim them three times/year just to keep them in check. I agree you shouldn't install stuff that might do well. I am saying the 80ft hedge in my back yard is thriving. A fence is a true alternative to a hedge.

[Florida Gardener]

Originally Posted by RussellB

Wax Myrtles were planted in the back of my property prior to my home being built. The area is 95percent shade and the myrtles are thriving. I trim them three times/year just to keep them in check. I agree you shouldn't install stuff that might do well. I am saying the 80ft hedge in my back yard is thriving. A fence is a true alternative to a hedge.

I've seen the opposite here...not calling you a liar....just saying what I've seen. The myrtles I saw were getting 50% shade, which sounds like a lot less than what the OP is dealing with, and they looked like hell....