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Old 08-30-2012, 09:56 AM
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My guys smoke. Rule 1; Never in the truck. Rule 2; Only on a break and Rule 3; Never, ever on a customer's property....always out-of-sight by the trailer. We never leave butts and I have more tattoos then anyone.
I don't smoke, but I've been around plenty of people that do smoke and I know how bad the habit is and often people take smoke breaks. It is not fair to those guys that are left working, while the "smoker" has to go take a puff. I'm not on my jobsites unless it's a special situation that requires me to be there. If I allow my guys to smoke on breaks, how do I limit the number of breaks and, personally, I don't feel I should pay them for those smoke breaks, especially when I know how much they will add up over time and how unfair it is to the non-smokers.

I agree, that I would hate to pass up a good employee because of it, but I also believe employees should follow the standards set forth by a company.
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:07 AM
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Do you or your employees smoke on the job?

In a constant quest to be as professional as possible and to hopefully attract larger campus and corporate clients and also to be healthy.....I have made my company a tobacco free company. With the type of work that we all do, this has become an issue for me to enforce.

On two occasions I have caught my main guyís lying to me about it, but it is something Iím adamant about. I could fire them, and start over again, but i know the guys are good guys; just the strong urge to smoke is hard to break on a long hard day in the field.

I see other companies smoking, flicking butts in yards, and just overall looking trashy. Have any of you tried this and succeeded? Or would you have any suggestions on how to enforce it?

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I completely agree with all of your points. Allowing employees to smoke WILL create an unprofessional image and turn off your clientele. Just the thought of a customer watching one of MY employees throwing a cigarette butt in the yard makes me very uneasy. The bottom line is do the right thing: keep a no smoking policy in place, and enforce it. Let all your guys know that anyone caught taking a puff will be terminated. Additionally, smokeless tobacco is equally disgusting and unprofessional. I mean really--spitting frequently while mowing a yard? I don't think so.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:04 AM
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I smoke a pack a day and have never had a customer say anything and people constantly come up to me while I'm standing by my truck smoking to ask me for a estimate or to cut their yard.
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Old 08-30-2012, 02:10 PM
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Keep a strict dress code policy in line and you won't have your guys dressing like dressing like thugs.
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Old 08-30-2012, 03:49 PM
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A thug is a thug. No thank you
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:56 PM
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A thug is a thug. No thank you
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Not everyone who smokes is a thug.
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Old 08-30-2012, 05:12 PM
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Not everyone who smokes is a thug.
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I was talking about this breed of young people today not smokers. A few of my guys smoke and it doesnt affect quality or efficiency.
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:26 PM
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So all young people are thugs? If that's the case, every old person is a crotchety old b@stard.
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:48 PM
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So all young people are thugs? If that's the case, every old person is a crotchety old b@stard.
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:02 AM
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I have the same exact policy. Its made very clear before I hire.
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I had to fire one guy when we first started our tobacco free policy. He wanted to dip and could not very well let him dip and the others not smoke, so that is why it came tobacco free. How do you enforce your policy?

I really do not want to fire two of my guys, but I do not see any other way, other than reducing pay or suspensions witout pay.
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