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Old 09-06-2012, 01:08 AM
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1st lighting job, some tips?

So i have my first lighting job coming up for a friend, quick and simply put i have a few questions in the design scheme of things

I am thinking of doign 3 path lights, two in the first right hand side bed and 1 in the second right have side. uplighting on the river birch and on the rock with grassses on the second bed on the right (plan is to have the up light hitting the rock and the tops of the grasses)

My question is basically how would you go about putting the lights in the second bed? I dont want it to be to cluttered so i was thinking of having the light near the flagstone path and stoop or on the corner of the bed, but that may to close to the up lighting on the rocks.

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Old 09-06-2012, 01:22 AM
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Couldn't open the attachment, this is the irrigation section. What kind of lights incandescent or LED? I was told the LED are more of a "pressure compensating" light. In proper design with incandescent the length of the wire to each fixture has to be the same or one will be bright and the others dim and dimmer.
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Old 09-06-2012, 05:46 AM
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You don't have the size of the area spec'd but it doesn't look too big. With the 3 path lights and the one spot light on the birch is probably enough. Don't over due the area this isn't the white house. Then again lighting is largely dependent on preference.

On the left hand side of the pathway is that grass? Personally for me I like triangle spacing on walkways- it adds much more subtlety to the ambiance. Shore up some of that grass - add a 3'x3' shrub area to install a pathlight at the mid way point. ( The grass area looks to small to anything with it anyways other then to mow it and have it look green)
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:26 PM
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im sorry posted this in the wrong section! and yes that is grass, the cutsomer wants to keep the area grass
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Old 09-07-2012, 12:30 AM
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In proper design with incandescent the length of the wire to each fixture has to be the same or one will be bright and the others dim and dimmer.
Where did you pick up this concept?
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Old 09-07-2012, 12:33 AM
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im sorry posted this in the wrong section! and yes that is grass, the cutsomer wants to keep the area grass
Vista has a detailed installation manual you could get at your nearest dealer.

But basically if its halogen, dont daisy chain, and you voltage needs to be bt 10.5-12 at the fixture. You may want to consider a well light for river birch, and a square type fixture for the rock.
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:04 AM
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Where did you pick up this concept?
Heh heh heh, from a fx luminaire rep, but basically what you mentioned later.
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But basically if its halogen, dont daisy chain, and you voltage needs to be bt 10.5-12 at the fixture.
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Old 09-07-2012, 12:30 PM
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Maybe Mitch knows, but in WA State there was some talk that the installer have a speciality electrical license or having the electricians do the wiring.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:03 PM
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I would bet a low voltage license is required, but it is not enforced.
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:59 PM
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I would bet a low voltage license is required, but it is not enforced.
When I heard WA State was considering a low-volt license, I called Labor & Industries to ask "why". He said, "because the idiots overload the transformers and set fire to the mulch because of improper installation".
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