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Old 09-15-2012, 09:07 AM
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You are cutting your me rate short IMHO.
I just cant see charging someone $100hr for me to help/supervise. Hows my rate for the equipment? It may include another truck for hauling the skid/tractor.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:19 AM
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I just cant see charging someone $100hr for me to help/supervise. Hows my rate for the equipment? It may include another truck for hauling the skid/tractor.
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I do not know enough about your equipment to say but I would price the rates the rental places have and that would be my target. I would would ask for the full boat rental too, Insurance and all! Consider fuel too.

You and I both know supervise means manage.

Lets say you want to make $50.00 for your time. That is $500.00 based on a 10 hour day and it could be closer to 12 hours.

Then you have your taxes, you have your insurance and you have to account for vacation time too. You betcha... if you bid a Gov job they ask you to break out labor, insurance, payroll and benifits. I would say a minimum of 45% and if you were going through a staffing agency they would put on 65%~ 69% markup to cover labor burden and profit.

Lets say you are going to pay your help 1.5 times their regular pay for hazardous duty. You better plan on a 10 hour safety training course too.

Lets say your guys are going to make $20.00 for doing this job. ( look up the DOL pay rate and union pay rates as this is a GOV job. ) then add 65%.


I will see if I can find you some labor rates.... BRB
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:28 AM
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http://www.empowerlouisiana.org/Docu...ct%20Sheet.pdf


Effective June 17, 2012, the new Health and Welfare Fringe Benefit Rates will increase for all Service Contract Act wage determinations.
http://www.wdol.gov/




Do not forget to have safety meetings daily....

I am still looking but you can call the LA offices too.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:37 AM
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http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes471011.htm

This is for the supervisor.
At the least I would be looking at the heavy construction wages.


http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes472073.htm

This is for the EQ operators.


http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes474041.htm

This is for hazardous materials workers.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:44 AM
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Glad im not working for the Govt. this is a wildlife recovery company , who is realizing they are under equipped for the task at hand.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:47 AM
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So taking the mean wage which is not an average wage but the middle wage in all wages reported at 45.85. In LA it is 37.27.
I still think 45.85 is a starting place.

Hazard pay 55.00 plus burden @ 30% = 71.5
Then your markup 30% = 92.95 per hour for you.
$950 for a daily rate.

Do the same for your workers. Keep in mind you will have to pay them what you quote too but they should make extra money on this kind of a job.

and this looks to be 18.74 in LA or 23.61 national mean wages.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:48 AM
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Glad im not working for the Govt. this is a wildlife recovery company , who is realizing they are under equipped for the task at hand.
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I assure you they are contracting with FEMA and the rules apply.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:56 AM
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I've done this before though it was on ranch land removing dead cows from thick woods. I think I removed 7 in one day. Had to cut my way into some places, get the animals pulled out with the Bobcat and loaded on a trailer where I had to then unload them at another location for burning.

It's nasty work. Your machines, if they are cab and air, will smell awful for weeks. Ditto for the trailers and attachments. The animals I was tasked with removing had only been dead 6 days and though it was summer, the carcasses still had sufficient strength to hold together while moving around though anything and everything dripped or fell out of vulture holes.

I would charge your normal daily rate plus 50% premium just for the disease and disgust factor. If you normally charge 90 per hour, I'd look at 130-140/hr. $1200 a day isn't unreasonable for the risk of sinking a machine or getting sick.

As for rentals, sunbelt isn't going to want their machines in the muck and stench.. possibly looking at big cleaning bill plus the operator is being paid for the expertise of knowing the area and risk of sinking a machine where it might still be flooded.
If they don't want to pay, let someone else take the risk. You probably don't need the practice. It is a cool sounding job if you can handle the disgusting part. I have moved a lot of dead (human) bodies over the years and was prepared for the smells. Even with cab and air, I had to hold my breath a few times but I have to say it was pretty cool to do the recovery.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=277789
Pretty much have to lock the eq in a closed container and use some Ozone. You have to worry about the Ozone destroying wiring and oxidizing stuff.
Maybe about 3 to 4 hours of ozone will kill the smell and not harm the equipment.


Which leads to buying hard hats, gloves, boots and coveralls and such which likely need to be cleaned and disposed of later.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:04 AM
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Well about to submit my rates. Guess we shall see how it goes.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:08 AM
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Well about to submit my rates. Guess we shall see how it goes.
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Good luck! Hope you get it but make it worth it!
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