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Old 09-30-2012, 10:24 AM
S&MLL S&MLL is offline
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So do you have your full blown electrical license?
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No Sir. Just pay a boatload of money to have my ec on retainer
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:44 AM
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No Sir. Just pay a boatload of money to have my ec on retainer
Well it seems that you choose to follow the rules that suit you as well.

And I don't think there is anything wrong with that.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:29 AM
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How many on here have there low voltage license?

It just doesnt make sense to go 18". It isnt any safer. When we install low voltage irrigation wire under a sidewalk to mount controller in garage it is a bore a few inches under sidewalk slab. Never had an incident in 1000 systems we have installed, and never will have an incident. 18" below the slab is 22"+... that is crazy for a low voltage wire... in my opinion.

And i know for a fact an inspector wouldnt even think about checking depth on a low voltage system. They are too lazy to even inpect a trench depth for 220v we install for electricians periodically. And that DOES need to be deep.
Muddywater , Answers to most of your questions can be read at this Link.

http://www.iaei.org/magazine/2004/11...volts-or-less/
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:34 AM
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Muddywater , Answers to most of your questions can be read at this Link.

http://www.iaei.org/magazine/2004/11...volts-or-less/
Yeah I read that article when I did a google search last night. And it does say that 12v wire needs to be 6" underground... even though I have never ever seen anyone put it 6" underground in a planting bed or natural area.


I have yet to find a NEC download to read through yet.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:36 AM
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You probably would have to pay for a down load.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:40 AM
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Also you can go to Mike Holts NEC code forum and find answers.

burial, depths

http://forums.mikeholt.com/search.php?searchid=898874
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:42 AM
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Well for the betterment of the industry as some have said, why doesn't one the nec advocators get the nec guidlines posted to the sticky notes?

Or does anyone actually have a copy of the nec guidelines?
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:45 AM
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Also you can go to Mike Holts NEC code forum and find answers.

burial, depths

http://forums.mikeholt.com/search.php?searchid=898874
This post is interesting. Says there is no direct burial depth for low voltage class 2 or 3 wire.

http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthrea...=burial+depths
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:50 AM
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You can purchase an NEC code book at Barnes and Noble or most Electrical supply companies.
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Old 09-30-2012, 12:05 PM
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I just bought the NEC app for $10 for my ipad. It is a 08 app but I would think it is still good for what we are doing anyway.

The people advocating NEC don't even know the rules!!

Under minimum of 102-mm (4-in.) thick concrete exterior slab with no vehicular traffic and the slab extending not less than 152mm (6-in) beyond the underground installation. ----------------------> can be installed 4" under slab
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