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Old 08-03-2015, 02:01 PM
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How to move a landscape brick retaining wall

We put in a wall a year ago that was roughly 50 feet long and 5 feet high. We had it all surveyed and engineered and, because of drainage issues, is back filled with rock three feet behind wall. We just received news that the survey we have completed may have been wrong, as the neighbor had a survey done for a fence and their company said we are over the line by a few inches. Whether it's a surveyor's fault or not, we are looking for the best way to move the wall if it comes to that.

The wall is on a hill and it faces the neighbor's house. Working on the hill would be a pain and we want to avoid destroying their yard with heavy equipment. What would be the easiest way to safely move the wall wall back one foot? It has geogrid in it and a fence above it.

I really appreciate any insight on moving the wall and any other words of wisdom from someone who has gone through this.
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Old 08-03-2015, 03:14 PM
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ummm......hate to say this, but sounds like you're gonna have to take it down completely and start over.
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Old 08-03-2015, 04:38 PM
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Might be cheaper to "buy" 1' or so of the neighbors property.

So they are going to put a fence along the retaining wall? To bad they plan to block off a decent view.
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Old 08-03-2015, 08:48 PM
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There is no easy way...

We were asked to remove one once 200' long x 16' high. It was installed in the fall of 1986. Surveyor said was was encroaching 4' on property above. Engineer wanted us to remove down to the 2' level and reslope. They were the old slope block made by Permacon. I quit and started my company year after.

Yes wall needs to come out completely if your neighbor is adamant that it doesn't encroach on his property.
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Old 08-04-2015, 01:50 PM
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*UPDATE*
Just had it resurveyed by our surveyors. Their survey is exactly the same as the original one and is roughly one inch of from the neighbor's surveys. It shows the wall going over the line by a little under 2" in some spots and most of it under an inch or not at all. That makes it so the property line is roughly on top of the second row of blocks. Would it be possible to "shave" off two inches without sacrificing the integrity of the blocks?


The purchasing of a very narrow strip of land would be ideal if the neighbor agreed to it, but he doesn't. It is a cool view too, especially with the black wrought iron fence on top.
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Old 08-04-2015, 09:56 PM
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Are they hollow core block?
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Old 08-05-2015, 02:44 AM
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Why did you bulid a wall so clost to the property line? are their no laws where you are? land owner just needs to write a check for a grand or 2 to buy a perminate easement from neighbors and have the easement registered on the deeds of both properties.. done... this is why their are laws prohibiting structures within 6 to 8 feet of any property line almost everywhere in the US. but it would suck to loose a very profitable job like this.
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Old 08-05-2015, 01:32 PM
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They are hollow core. They're the Anchor™ Diamond Pro Stone Cut® Retaining Wall, Large blocks.

The owner wanted the wall there, he's taking full responsibility for it. He is kicking himself for the mistake too. He has offered to buy the land, that was refused. The easement idea might work. Does that work like a utility easement? The neighbor will own the land, but the property owner will have access and will pay the taxes?
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Old 08-05-2015, 05:11 PM
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Buy land this, buy land that, easement this, easement that. Yadda yadda yadda.

Bottom line is, no matter how you try to spin it - the adjoining property owner does not want that wall on or over his property.

If the adjoining property owner was willing to be nice - then he/she would have been nice from the get-go.
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Old 08-05-2015, 07:06 PM
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Buy land this, buy land that, easement this, easement that. Yadda yadda yadda.

Bottom line is, no matter how you try to spin it - the adjoining property owner does not want that wall on or over his property.

If the adjoining property owner was willing to be nice - then he/she would have been nice from the get-go.
This.

Especially since now you know the wall is over his line by an inch or two. Zero effect on the neighbors life.....he just wants to be an ass.

Whatever you do, proceed knowing this.
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