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Old 05-07-2015, 03:10 PM
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Problem with annual rye, or crappy tall fescue

Redid part of my own lawn last year after I had built in pool installed. Not sure what happened, but I appear to have some annual rye, or tall fescue mixed in. It grows fast, is clumpy and light green. Is it possible for an annual rye to survive a northeast winter? It was bad this year, so maybe its a tall fescue??? I'm hoping its annual rye, so it dies out on its own. Any thoughts?
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Old 05-07-2015, 07:37 PM
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http://www.turffiles.ncsu.edu/Weeds/...ss_Annual.aspx

Annual rye has a pinkish bulb-like stem near the soil line. The back of the leaf blade is shiny. Summer heat or winter cold should kill it. Not guaranteed.
Read the label carefully. Use care when buying grass seed. Be alert for unwanted types of rye grass like "Pantera Annual Rye".
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Old 05-07-2015, 08:22 PM
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http://www.turffiles.ncsu.edu/Weeds/...ss_Annual.aspx

Annual rye has a pinkish bulb-like stem near the soil line. The back of the leaf blade is shiny. Summer heat or winter cold should kill it. Not guaranteed.
Read the label carefully. Use care when buying grass seed. Be alert for unwanted types of rye grass like "Pantera Annual Rye".
Well its not pink, but a deep red. It was a quality seed, but I'm thinking whatever this crap is, was in the topsoil I purchased.

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Pull some up and take a look at the roots. Could be annual rye.
If it is quackgrass (a difficult weedy grass), then it will have underground creeping stems called rhizomes.

Tall fescue has very prominent leaf veins. Tall fescue also has rough edges on the leaf blades--not visible , but you can feel the edges.
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I've had good results on athletic fields with Pantera as *part* of the blend. It's one of the better annual ryes. In fact, I can't name another one I would use in the north.

Suzook, sorry I can't tell or guess from the photos but I remember the thread last year when you did this. Seemed like it came in well. If you can stand it, I'd wait till late August. If it is annual rye it will be gone, if it is something else you will be able to take it out chemically.

When I topdress, I always keep a bucket of the material and see what comes up.
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I've had good results on athletic fields with Pantera as *part* of the blend. It's one of the better annual ryes. In fact, I can't name another one I would use in the north.

Suzook, sorry I can't tell or guess from the photos but I remember the thread last year when you did this. Seemed like it came in well. If you can stand it, I'd wait till late August. If it is annual rye it will be gone, if it is something else you will be able to take it out chemically.

When I topdress, I always keep a bucket of the material and see what comes up.
Thanks. Yes it came in great, and I saw just a bit of this. I'm gonna wait it out.hopefully I don't have to go to extremes to get rid of it.
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I don't think that is K31. Hoping its not quackgrass, if so you will have to use roundup to kill the patches, then reseed/sod back in again. Only way to do it.
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Well, I think it may be quackgrass looking at some pictures online. Ugh, where the f did this crap come from???? I'm guessing it had to be in the damn topsoil.
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Old 05-08-2015, 09:29 AM
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Ugh. I feel like my lawn has cancer. I guess I'll just deal with it till August, roundup it, and start over. My wife thinks I'm nuts stressing over it, but I'm a lawn fanatic.
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New pic guys....any help??
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