Giving a foreman the ability to fire someone.

[johnnybow]

Have you ever given a foreman that worked for you the ability to fire someone? For example, if you werent able to work directly with a crew and he was the man in charge. Any experiences?

[grandview (2006)]

Do I hear lawsuit?

[DEPENDABLE LANDSCAPING]

MAke sure you have your verbal warnings documented, your written warnings signed by employee, and your stories straight.
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[tonygreek]

Fire someone on the spot? Absolutely not. Recommended they be terminated? Sure. As DependableLandscaping points out, have a process and follow it so that you can avoid Grandview's rhetorical question.

[TriCountyLawn]

Thats YOUR job.

[seabee24]

Officially only I hire and fire

Unoffcially - what the Forman says goes , his recommendations are strongly followed as I hold the Forman to certain production standards. He shouldn't have someone on his crew he doesn't like

Officially the Forman can send someone home for the day, in which case I would do a verbal, or written write up the following day
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[knox gsl]

Originally Posted by seabee24

Officially only I hire and fire

Unoffcially - what the Forman says goes , his recommendations are strongly followed as I hold the Forman to certain production standards. He shouldn't have someone on his crew he doesn't like

Officially the Forman can send someone home for the day, in which case I would do a verbal, or written write up the following day
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And this is how it should be. I have been a forman before and the owner came to me to fire a guy that he asked me to hire. I didn't like dealing with any of it but the worker did need to go and it was my call in the end.

[jrs.landscaping]

Originally Posted by seabee24

Officially only I hire and fire

Unoffcially - what the Forman says goes , his recommendations are strongly followed as I hold the Forman to certain production standards. He shouldn't have someone on his crew he doesn't like

Officially the Forman can send someone home for the day, in which case I would do a verbal, or written write up the following day
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This is how we do it, firing someone on the spot lets emotions get involved. Maybe your foreman is mad because the guy messed up, or was late. Don't give yourself that much stress, because for every guy they fire YOU have to find someone to replace them.

[Mark Oomkes]

Originally Posted by grandview (2006)

Do I hear lawsuit?

Why?

Originally Posted by DEPENDABLE LANDSCAPING

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Horse hockey.

What if one lives in an at-will state? Michigan is, I can fire for any reason or no reason. I have a disciplinary policy, but I don't have to follow it.

Besides, there are some offenses that should and do result in immediate termination. What if the foreman caught a guy stealing and you were on vacation? Lying? Destroying company property? Smoking pot on the job? Drinking on the job?

What you need to do is train your foreman so they know the proper procedure for terminating an employee. And then give them the authority and responsibility they should have. Might not happen in a month or 6 or it might take a year, but to say no foreman should ever fire someone is ridiculous. Or to say a lawsuit will follow.

[grandview (2006)]

Originally Posted by Mark Oomkes

Why?



Horse hockey.

What if one lives in an at-will state? Michigan is, I can fire for any reason or no reason. I have a disciplinary policy, but I don't have to follow it.

Besides, there are some offenses that should and do result in immediate termination. What if the foreman caught a guy stealing and you were on vacation? Lying? Destroying company property? Smoking pot on the job? Drinking on the job?

What you need to do is train your foreman so they know the proper procedure for terminating an employee. And then give them the authority and responsibility they should have. Might not happen in a month or 6 or it might take a year, but to say no foreman should ever fire someone is ridiculous. Or to say a lawsuit will follow.

Does the employee handbook give the foreman the right to fire someone? Do you have a human resource dept that this person can go to first to find out if it personal or professional firing?