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Old 10-26-2012, 04:26 AM
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Herler, what the sam hill does a disposable chinese moped engine have to do with a Briggs 16 1/2 hp OHV engine ?????
I am contributing to solution by shedding light on the misinformation you have injected into this thread.. Hopefully no one will read your nonsense and percieve your mind farts as factual information.

Taelwind, is the engine running rich enough to foul the plug ?
The Briggs OHV singles had a bunch of cam issues, worn lobes, broken ACRs, gears that come loose from the shaft. Check your valve adjustments .

My apologies for the rant.....I have no appetite for mindless BS when troubleshooting an engine.
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Old 10-27-2012, 12:45 PM
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Herler, what the sam hill does a disposable chinese moped engine have to do with a Briggs 16 1/2 hp OHV engine ?????
They're both cheap.

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I am contributing to solution by shedding light on the misinformation you have injected into this thread.. Hopefully no one will read your nonsense and percieve your mind farts as factual information.
No, you are picking a fight by throwing insults at other members.

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Taelwind, is the engine running rich enough to foul the plug ?
The Briggs OHV singles had a bunch of cam issues, worn lobes, broken ACRs, gears that come loose from the shaft. Check your valve adjustments .
That contributes to the solution, but it may not fix the problem either.

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My apologies for the rant.....I have no appetite for mindless BS when troubleshooting an engine.
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And being ignorant is better?

There is no need to hurl insults at other members, whether they are right or wrong makes no difference.
We all have a right to our opinion, whether or not you agree with it.

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Old 10-27-2012, 01:13 PM
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Herler...yes we all have a right to our opinions.
The majority of my opinions are backed up by facts.
When I see someone presenting absolute misinformation as the gospel truth..
I am going to stand up to it every time...get. used to it.
Ignorant ???? Guess I ll have to consider the source.

There used to be a guy called TopSites that posted a lot of the same nonsense.
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:40 PM
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I pulled the carb and intake off to see if I could see any problems. I did not. So I took a second look at the carb float, it has no leaks. The valves appeared to be adjusted but since somebody suggested this might be the problem - remember, original problem was not compression, runs but sucks lots of gas and even spits some gas back out the intake - The valves were not adjusted correctly. Adjusting the intake valve got me some compression, adjusting the exhaust valve got me more. The engine is now hard to turn by hand and has good compression.



Thanks to everybody who helped me out. My battery drained cause I left the key on. It is now charging, the intake is back on, along with the filter and cover. After battery charges, I will see if mower starts and runs.

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Old 10-27-2012, 01:49 PM
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Well billy, you're not contributing the solution so let me speak from what happens to the 150cc GY6 engine when it sucks air and you believe what you want but when an engine runs lean it runs harder and stronger and creates even more suction which results in the carburetor feeding a TON of fuel, and maybe your engines lean out but a small enough air leak doesn't and that results in a never-ending cycle so whether you believe me or not an air leak on the intake end can (and will) result in higher fuel consumption.

How did I come up with this analysis?
The guy just rebuilt the carburetor, which means he removed, and re-installed it.
Thus it is possible that a small air leak could have worked itself in, maybe a gasket didn't seat correctly, perhaps somehow the carburetor did not get re-installed the way it should have been, and it is a likely cause of the malfunction, I never said it was the cause of the problem, I said it was a possibility.
Air leaks DO include vacuum lines!

The other possibilities are being, will be, or have been covered.
I am not interested in discussing those, I am discussing the fact that the carburetor rebuild was likely the source of the problem.
Air leaks DO include vacuum lines!

On that note, a new carburetor and gasket set might likely fix things as well.
Oh me...
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:52 PM
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That's absolute horsehockey. The stupidest post. I've ever read.
If you had an intake leak it would run lean and use less fuel.
It would also make less power as a result of starving for gas.
I surely hope you don't work on other peoples mowers.
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:58 PM
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Gotta go falcon punch the master mechanic that taught me 30 years ago that vacuum leaks cause a lean condition.
All those wasted years. What a fool I was.
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Old 10-27-2012, 02:01 PM
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Gotta go falcon punch the master mechanic that taught me 30 years ago that vacuum leaks cause a lean condition.
All those wasted years. What a fool I was. size=1]Posted via Mobile Device[/size]
Should be self explanatory...it's behind the throttle butterfly. But what a cool and cheap way of increasing horsepower...just loosen intake manifold bolts and cut all vac lines...on an automobile the largest increase in power could come from the brake booster vac line...gobbs of power and no brakes is how I roll!
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Old 10-27-2012, 02:08 PM
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No.

The guy said he rebuilt the carburetor with a kit.

Guess what, more than likely that is where the trouble lies and I say that because in my experience, many rebuilds don't work.
An intake leak was the nice way of me saying "YOU F'D UP BY REBUILDING IT !"
Get it?

In the future I'll be glad to come in like an ignorant bvttfart and call people names and telling them they are stupid,
seeing how it sure looks like some folks would prefer that.
But for now I thought I would use tact, I suppose you are right that I was stupid in that regard.

Either the kit, the rebuild, or something with the carburetor installation didn't go right.

I say that because in my experience, so many rebuilds don't work out that it's as easy to replace the entire carburetor with a new one, and for that to happen, the PRESENT carb needs to come OFF!
Which is accomplished by looking for intake leaks!
Get it?

And more than likely that is where the trouble is, that carburetor needs to be pulled, thrown out, and a new one put on.
At least that is what I would have done.

But it costs MONEY to do that, MONEY the guy was NOT willing to spend because if he HAD been willing to SPEND it he would have already bought a NEW ONE! You GET THAT?!
So I was trying to put it to the man GENTLY!

And for any of that to happen the carburetor needs to come off.
An intake leak was me trying to guide the man in that general direction!
An intake leak was the nice way of me saying "YOU F'D UP THE REBUILD!"
Get it?

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Old 10-27-2012, 02:19 PM
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Sorry punk I know that's all it was the kid was trying to get a rise out of me, well there you go,
you done did it, I sure hope you are so proud of yourself, go flatter yourself now.

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