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That 19hp engine was another concern of mine. Most of the other machines in that category have at lest 24 hp engines. Is the 19 really enough to cut a week or so worth of growing at full speed?
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When I was waiting delivery of my Tiger Cat I had a Freedom Z on loan for a week or so. My lawn is fertilized, irrigated and grows like crazy in the summer. The 19-hp Kawi motor did not have any problems cutting through my lawn growth. I was discharging and not mulching. If you mulch it could be a problem in tall wet grass.
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I think the freedom Z only goes 8mph
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That 19hp engine was another concern of mine. Most of the other machines in that category have at lest 24 hp engines. Is the 19 really enough to cut a week or so worth of growing at full speed?
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I have a 19hp Kawi on my 42" Super duty and it is incredible. The machine is fast and has never bogged down once. However, this is a 42" with two blades. Both great machines, I was between a Freedom and Hustler years back and went with Hustler and I am glad I did.
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Just to put a little bias suggestion in this talk. I've worked for corporate lawn mower manufacturers and privately owned manufacturers. There is a big difference between the two when it comes to after the sale support. You will see at times Mr. Mullet engaging discussions on this sight. I don't recall any other President of a mower manufacturer doing that. The Corporate company answers to stock holders when the private company answers to you. When making a purchase as large as the one you are about to you need to look down the road at the after the sale support. I don't mean just the dealer, but the maker of the equipment. Hustler has your back.

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Old 11-02-2012, 11:14 AM
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The Scag Freedom is alot better choice than the Hustler Fastrak for the simple reason of discharge.The question of best support Scag again hands down. SORRY Mr Midwest
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The Corporate company answers to stock holders when the private company answers to you.

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Not sure if this was a general statement, but Scag is owned by a private company as well.
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I stand corrected,
I meant privately owned vs Corp.
Correct, Scag is owed by Metalcraft I believe.
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I have both here side by side. Both trades, I agree with the guy earlier the Fastrak looks a little beefier. I like the Scag with the motor turned the right way instead of to the side, and I like the bars on the rearend of the scag protecting the motor. Here is my negative on the scag. I don't know if its a weird coincedence or what, but the one Bad Boy I sold with a 19hp Kawasaki for a homeowner in 2008 crapped out last week (just installed a new one on it for $1550), and on a Scag 48" 19hp I got on trade couple weeks ago is smoking like i am spraying mosquitos. I just got rebuild parts to rebuild both the old BB motor and the scag. This is the only 2 kawasaki 19hp I have ever touched, sold ,or seen in 5 years I have been a mower dealer, and they both require rebuild same week. Both motors were built in 2008 and both were homeowner owned very well taken care of. I personally would lean someone on a machine with the 23 or 25hp more streamline kawa here with much less issues. Percentage wise the 19hp has a 100% failure rate here within 300 hours on one, and 1200 hours on the other...lol. The Scag does a have bigger discharge chute opening, but they cut so identacle its scary.... no wet lush grass to compare though.
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I have both here side by side. Both trades, I agree with the guy earlier the Fastrak looks a little beefier. I like the Scag with the motor turned the right way instead of to the side, and I like the bars on the rearend of the scag protecting the motor. Here is my negative on the scag. I don't know if its a weird coincedence or what, but the one Bad Boy I sold with a 19hp Kawasaki for a homeowner in 2008 crapped out last week (just installed a new one on it for $1550), and on a Scag 48" 19hp I got on trade couple weeks ago is smoking like i am spraying mosquitos. I just got rebuild parts to rebuild both the old BB motor and the scag. This is the only 2 kawasaki 19hp I have ever touched, sold ,or seen in 5 years I have been a mower dealer, and they both require rebuild same week. Both motors were built in 2008 and both were homeowner owned very well taken care of. I personally would lean someone on a machine with the 23 or 25hp more streamline kawa here with much less issues. Percentage wise the 19hp has a 100% failure rate here within 300 hours on one, and 1200 hours on the other...lol. The Scag does a have bigger discharge chute opening, but they cut so identacle its scary.... no wet lush grass to compare though.
Thanks! This was really helpful! I'm leaning more towards the fast trak with the 24hp Kawasaki.
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Just to put a little bias suggestion in this talk. I've worked for corporate lawn mower manufacturers and privately owned manufacturers. There is a big difference between the two when it comes to after the sale support. You will see at times Mr. Mullet engaging discussions on this sight. I don't recall any other President of a mower manufacturer doing that. The Corporate company answers to stock holders when the private company answers to you. When making a purchase as large as the one you are about to you need to look down the road at the after the sale support. I don't mean just the dealer, but the maker of the equipment. Hustler has your back.

I was mainly looking away from the hustler for a while and more at the scag due to the three local dealers here didn't represent them very well. Their inventory set outside all the time, arm rest were falling apart from the sun, rust on the key chains, etc. Just not real impressive for a $6k investment. I just found another dealer not much further away whose equipment is in perfect shap. Really takes care of his product. That another think that's swinging me back to hustler. About 90% sure that's where we r heading.

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