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Old 03-01-2015, 04:28 PM
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starting a new business and looking for advice.

a friend and i are starting a business doing large area mowing and we would like your advice. here are some example jobs we would be interested in.

job 1.

total area 26.61 acres.
park (including high school football field and approx 1.5 miles of walking path) 10.7 acres
sewer treatment plant. 15.3 acres. with weedeat around small building
water tower. .61 acre. just mow and weedeat around tower.

job 2.
total area 305 acre.
small airport, consisting of 2 runways. approx 12 hangers, ect.


these are both local jobs.

for equipment, this is what we have between the 2 of us.
20ft heavy equipment trailer
3/4 ton truck
20ft roll off truck.
3 chain saws
bobcat with bucket and pallet forks
hand tools
1 good weedeater.
2 fully equipped shops.
2 grasshopper mowers. 48" cut. 1 has a bad hydro system.
- we can rent these on a hourly basis from relatives if needed
dump truck. (its old, ugly and slow. but we already own it.)

equipment we plan on purchasing
2 Dixie chopper xcalibers 74" decks
1 weedeater
portable air compressor
fuel transfer tanks
leaf blower

equipment we plan on purchasing this fall or in the future.
70-90 hp tractor with loader
large tow behind finish mower
1 42-60" zero turn
bush hog
tree shear
brush grapple
3pt grader.
large gooseneck trailer.


our plan for this season is try to get 2 good sized accounts, possibly the ones mentioned above. then expand our business. 30 miles south of us there is a large wind farm, and there is a fair amount of oil field work going on around us, not to mention all the farming and ranching. our plan is to mow a few accounts and try to get in with either the wind farm or a couple of the local oil companies and maintain their right of ways and roads. in our slow time, we will be clearing pastures and CRP ground. we have entertained purchasing pasture ariation equipment in the future as well. we will also be doing some local snow removal to help make payments, using existing equipment.


our mowing service will primarily consist of...
mow, weedeat, blow walk ways off, go.

other than the 1 park, we are not really interested at this time in doing park or residential work. the park is to help get our name out there and is local.

what tips do you gentlemen have for financing?

both of us are single, still live with our parents, are in our early 20s and have been doing seasonal agriculture work for the past several years. we plan on doing all the work ourselves and only hiring help on a as need basis for the first year. we also have extensive mechanical knowledge.

we are working with the local economic development director on getting started and will be licensed and insured.

is this do-able?


sorry for the long post, but i thank you guys for your advise.
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:41 PM
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Contact score.org and schedule a meeting to learn how to create a business plan going forward coordinate with your local economic development director so your all working off the same sheets of music. Weather or not your plans on future growth will succeed really depends on how much future growth you can actually secure,handle.
Ask about any mentoring programs available for more One on One contact and follow up. score.org will help you going forward and the cost is free, the peace of mind will be priceless.
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Old 03-01-2015, 06:20 PM
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thanks.

ill look into it.
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Old 03-01-2015, 08:30 PM
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Set up a plan and look into hustler i think that they have a 104'' ZTR, it has wings that fold up or down and drives just like a ztr, or something like that. My city uses one of those and a John Deere WAM for all of their area stuff.

Also with some places that big they go cheap and just need to be cut, no fancy stripes needed.
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Old 03-01-2015, 08:45 PM
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i havent looked into the hustler real close, but i guess im going to look closer. i priced a new deere WAM and almost crapped my self. we are planin on just doing jobs that are looking for a "quickie" type cut. heck, some of them could be done with a 20ft bush hog. which we plan to purchase in the future if the need is there.
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Old 03-02-2015, 03:43 AM
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The best tip that I can tell you, from what you just mentioned is this.

Get rid of your friend.

You don't need a partner is this business especially when starting out.

Just save your friendship while you can and start solo.

Take what equipment you have and make it work for you and if you feel you must keep your friend, then hire him as an employee, but that still will kill a friendship.




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a friend and i are starting a business doing large area mowing and we would like your advice. here are some example jobs we would be interested in.

job 1.

total area 26.61 acres.
park (including high school football field and approx 1.5 miles of walking path) 10.7 acres
sewer treatment plant. 15.3 acres. with weedeat around small building
water tower. .61 acre. just mow and weedeat around tower.

job 2.
total area 305 acre.
small airport, consisting of 2 runways. approx 12 hangers, ect.


these are both local jobs.

for equipment, this is what we have between the 2 of us.
20ft heavy equipment trailer
3/4 ton truck
20ft roll off truck.
3 chain saws
bobcat with bucket and pallet forks
hand tools
1 good weedeater.
2 fully equipped shops.
2 grasshopper mowers. 48" cut. 1 has a bad hydro system.
- we can rent these on a hourly basis from relatives if needed
dump truck. (its old, ugly and slow. but we already own it.)

equipment we plan on purchasing
2 Dixie chopper xcalibers 74" decks
1 weedeater
portable air compressor
fuel transfer tanks
leaf blower

equipment we plan on purchasing this fall or in the future.
70-90 hp tractor with loader
large tow behind finish mower
1 42-60" zero turn
bush hog
tree shear
brush grapple
3pt grader.
large gooseneck trailer.


our plan for this season is try to get 2 good sized accounts, possibly the ones mentioned above. then expand our business. 30 miles south of us there is a large wind farm, and there is a fair amount of oil field work going on around us, not to mention all the farming and ranching. our plan is to mow a few accounts and try to get in with either the wind farm or a couple of the local oil companies and maintain their right of ways and roads. in our slow time, we will be clearing pastures and CRP ground. we have entertained purchasing pasture ariation equipment in the future as well. we will also be doing some local snow removal to help make payments, using existing equipment.


our mowing service will primarily consist of...
mow, weedeat, blow walk ways off, go.

other than the 1 park, we are not really interested at this time in doing park or residential work. the park is to help get our name out there and is local.

what tips do you gentlemen have for financing?

both of us are single, still live with our parents, are in our early 20s and have been doing seasonal agriculture work for the past several years. we plan on doing all the work ourselves and only hiring help on a as need basis for the first year. we also have extensive mechanical knowledge.

we are working with the local economic development director on getting started and will be licensed and insured.

is this do-able?


sorry for the long post, but i thank you guys for your advise.
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Old 03-02-2015, 01:49 PM
kd0nfq kd0nfq is offline
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hmmm....
i hadnt thought about the friendship thing. i guess i really need to think about that.
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