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Old 11-29-2012, 04:17 AM
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commercial vs residential

Anyone do one or the other for a particular reaSon

Better profit for 1? Less headaches? Less competition? Etc?

If you do both do you try to get a certain percent or gross from one or the other etc is commercial work all the extra headaches it seems???
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:48 AM
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In south Florida....
Residential=Good
Commercial=Bad
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:02 AM
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Anyone do one or the other for a particular reaSon

Better profit for 1? Less headaches? Less competition? Etc?

If you do both do you try to get a certain percent or gross from one or the other etc is commercial work all the extra headaches it seems???
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my commercial properties are a piece of cake. I like them because i can do them wayyy early in the morning or at night when things get tight.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:31 AM
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The main thing that I don't care for commercial is, you can't get creative. Everything is formal and kept in boxes....
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Many times, commercial accounts are interested in only one thing, and that is price. Some insist on accepting bids as often as every year, in an effort to keep costs at a minimum. Generally speaking, if you do a good job on residentials, you can retain the account as long as you want it.
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:00 AM
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The commercial account is capable of spending ten times as much as the residential.
Whether they do...
That's another story.

And you really need a crew to handle commercial accounts, in my experience there exist only a small handful of these types that a solo operator can tackle, so in my opinion the commercial account isn't worth it for a solo but for a crew type operation it might be the thing that keeps them afloat.
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:35 AM
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I have 1 employee willing to go to 2 or 3 if need be only want 1 crew though but I want to generAte more work to justify my costs and obv make more.

With tht bein said yes comm can generate 10x more but is it bad to have all your eggs in one basket? If I were to lose that "big" account the following year due to a low bidder then id be screwed were as if I have 100 res and lose one its no big deal
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:36 PM
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With tht bein said yes comm can generate 10x more but is it bad to have all your eggs in one basket? If I were to lose that "big" account the following year due to a low bidder then id be screwed were as if I have 100 res and lose one its no big deal
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Our company is about 90% commercial.
Once you start going after big commercial properties you just got to keep growing. You are right, if you have one huge contract and you lose it you are screwed. If you have 40 big commercial properties and you lose 1 it isn't so bad.

I suggest going after all different types of commercial such as:
-Home Owners Assoc.
-Apartment Complexes
-Business Parks
-Industrial Parks
-City Work

You never know when a particular market will crash and if you have all your eggs in an HOA basket then you are twice as likely to be screwed. If you have eggs in every basket with several clients in each you will most likely be ok.

Low ballers will always be out there, don't fear them just do much better work than them and you should be ok.
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:52 PM
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How did you go about getting into your commercial and what things should I watch out for and what do I need specifically to jump into commercial
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:03 PM
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Our company is about 90% commercial.
Once you start going after big commercial properties you just got to keep growing. You are right, if you have one huge contract and you lose it you are screwed. If you have 40 big commercial properties and you lose 1 it isn't so bad.

I suggest going after all different types of commercial such as:
-Home Owners Assoc.
-Apartment Complexes
-Business Parks
-Industrial Parks
-City Work

You never know when a particular market will crash and if you have all your eggs in an HOA basket then you are twice as likely to be screwed. If you have eggs in every basket with several clients in each you will most likely be ok.

Low ballers will always be out there, don't fear them just do much better work than them and you should be ok.
Here in Florida all 5 that you listed pay crapola. The only good commercial work are shopping centers(to a degree). City work is bid at pennies on the dollar.
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