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Old 01-09-2013, 08:31 PM
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That may make tracking payments a nightmare. Invoice once a month, collect throughout month. People that have not paid in 30 days, I call and remind them. They dont answer, I leave a message and inform them service will be stopped until account is paid in full. 9.8 times out of 10 you get paid in full with in 3 days.
If you got 30 customers and you invoice them in groups of 10, try to keep up with who has paid relevant to 30 days. I say this because, again, you are out your cost of doing business to there Level Amount. Bill everyone once a month, collect throughout the month.
One thing I started doing in 2012 was I started invoicing customers as soon as it was there last service of the month. That kept me from doing all of mine in one or two nights and I could track payments relative to a full calender.
So do you set the invoices up as pay upon now or do you net them 30 days? I liked service auto pilots idea of credit cards on file and automatically bill at the same time every month, I would like to implement some sort of the same system just not ready yet. That way I could do "level billing" but still have cash flow all throughout the month. Do things get tight on you at the end of the month?
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:04 PM
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We bill twice a month, on the 15th and the 30/31st we took the customer list and split in half by alphabetical order, it keeps cash flow going throughout the month, things always come up no matter how hard you try, so billing once a month is hard for a small operation. Crimson your saying you still service the proerties in dec jan and feb? every week or how much?
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:15 PM
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Also don't have this as your only option but have other options as well, It's a good way to go, but you will have a hard time selling it to most people, so just have it as an option, I think I did a terrible job of selling it last year, you have to really be clear about it. we had a few that when dec rolled around and they got their bill they canceled, all of a sudden didn't remember signing up for "That" even though they had a signed agreement.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:39 PM
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We bill twice a month, on the 15th and the 30/31st we took the customer list and split in half by alphabetical order, it keeps cash flow going throughout the month, things always come up no matter how hard you try, so billing once a month is hard for a small operation. Crimson your saying you still service the proerties in dec jan and feb? every week or how much?
To me this seems better for the business so your not having to pinch pennies at the end of the month. I also felt like I haven't been communicating with customers well. This year when someone signs up I am going to sit down with them and go over everything that is going to be done on their property before they sign.
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:43 AM
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Yes, I still "service" Dec, Jan, Feb. I will go by, try to on trash day, pull there cans up to the garage door, throw away ran over news papers, put the new paper on the front patio, pick up a few small limbs or trash and move on.
Some of my Level Billers have Snow removal estimated in. I base my Level Bill on what is average for our area. In the Winters of 09,10,11 I did more snow removal than I estimated. I 2012 I did one, started weekly service sooner but went back to EOW went the drought kicked in and it was 100 and too stupid everyday.
I thought about invoicing biweekly. Didnt because I ended up having a lot of weekly payers
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:51 AM
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cpll, on that winter service, once a month unless it snows. 12 month Level billing is same all 12 months. I dont half to go, i could sit and watch the birds but they keep me feed and warm in the winter and I sweat while they are in the A/C. If they call, I am more than happy to go do something, There is only so long I can sit before I start laughing at myself or start thinking Im still gungho about running 5 miles a day or sitting behind this
$%#@ computer dreaming about new mowers!!! Maddening!!!
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:55 PM
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It's a bit different here we don't have the snow option, matter of fact it's sunny and 65 here today. That was what I was thinking once a month would suffice in dec jan and feb, but when you try to sell that, it's gets really hard, people are really tightening down on their budgets now, and $200/month for a one time service for three months doesn't make sense for the avg person.No matter how you put it to them. Right now I'm looking at weekly service march thru oct then twice in nov and once in dec jan and feb for the year round customers.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:52 PM
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I know what you mean about tightening down on money and I had the same questions you did. Most will think twice about because they are heavy into you with there money on Level 12 months. By the time you get June you are into them with your service, they could fire you and deny whats left to atleast break even. It is a big trust issue so starting weekly and earning trust with your hard work and honesty will be key.
You can do a nine month Level Pay, it will be higher though.
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:13 PM
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I have all my full service customers set up on level payment. March thru December. Trying to collect in off season is hard and most customers didnt want to pay in off months. Level paying has allowed us to get payed faster and on time. "Mow only" customers are billed 1st of the month before work is done to ensure payment. No payment by the 15th...no more mow. It has worked out great and it allows us us to budget monthly with level payments. Commercial customers are 12 month payment.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:56 PM
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In NC, if you do landscape contracts above a certain dollar amount, I believe $2500/year, you're required to obtain a landscaping contractor certification and license. It might be worth checking the laws in SC prior to entering into a contract, just to be safe. Good luck.
I'm not sure that's accurate. In NC we have a Landscape Contractors' Registration Board. Here are the first three paragraphs of the stature:

On and after December 1, 1975, it shall be unlawful for any person, partnership, association or corporation in this State to use the title "landscape contractor," or to advertise as such without first obtaining a certificate issued by the North Carolina Landscape contractors' Registration Board under provisions of this Chapter.(1975, c. 741, s. 1.)

§ 89D‑2. Definition.
A "landscape contractor" within the meaning of this Chapter is any person, partnership, association or corporation who for compensation or valuable consideration or promise thereof engages in the business requiring the art, experience, ability, knowledge, science and skill to install, plant, repair and maintain gardens, lawns, shrubs, vines, bushes, trees and other decorative vegetation including the grading and preparation of plots and areas of land for decorative treatment and arrangement; who constructs or installs garden pools, fountains, pavilions, conservatories, hothouses and greenhouses, incidental retaining walls, fences, walks, drainage and sprinkler systems; or who engages in incidental construction in connection therewith, or does any part thereof in such a manner that, under an agreed specification, an acceptable landscaping project can be executed. (1975, c. 741, s. 2.)

§ 89D‑3. Application of Chapter.
The provisions of this Chapter shall not apply to and shall not include any person, partnership, association or corporation who shall perform any of the acts aforesaid in G.S. 89D‑2 with reference to any property, so long as that person, partnership, association or corporation shall not use the title "landscape contractor." (1975, c. 741, s. 3.)

Basically as long as you are not using and advertising yourself as a "Landscape Contractor" you can do the same work.

I think there are laws that require a general contractors license if they are over a certain amount (30K).
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