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Old 01-20-2013, 03:52 PM
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New Tandem Dump Truck purchase?

Alright guys, I'm thinking of getting an new tandem dump truck. I have found a 2007 Peterbilt with a cat c-11 335hp engine and an 2008 KW with a cat C-13 350hp. The Peterbilt as been overhauled and as 340,000 miles and the KW only has 228,000 miles with no overhaul and it falls under the new emission laws. The 2007 does not have any emission laws. Both truck are the same price and in the same condition as far as beds tires and looks. Any advice would be great?
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:04 PM
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What tranny and is the final drive ratio? What type of suspensions? With only the info that you gave I would go with the Pete. I like the interiors better and of course no emission bs to deal with. I am not a fan of either of those engines.
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:13 PM
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C-11 Caterpillar Engine 335 hp; 340,711 mi; Diesel; 8LL OD; Engine Brake; Chalmers Suspension; 16 ft Length; 4.63 Ratio; 24.5 Tires; All Aluminum Wheels; 220 in Wheelbase; Tandem Axle; 14,600 lb Front Axle Weight; 40,000 lb Rear Axle Weight;

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T800 16 Tandem axle, C13 Caterpillar 350 H.P., 8LL trans., Approx. 228280 Miles, Chalmers Suspension, 14320 lb Front Axle Weight, 40000 lb Rear Axle Weight, 24.5 Radials On Aluminum Wheels, 218 W.B., 16' Steel Dump, Custom Interior, 100 Gallon Aluminum Tank, Single Exhaust, Power Steering, A/C, Jake Brake, High-Lift Gate, Spreader Pan, Electric Tarp, 44 Side Height, 8 Board, 54,320# GVWR,
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:14 PM
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Also what's the problem with engines?
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:23 PM
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The specs look good on both. The C-11 might be working harder and thus less MPG and life, perhaps why it had an early rebuild. I am surprised both have 24.5's. Looks like both were started as dump trucks and not road trucks converted to dump trucks.

The CAT engines are expensive to work on, and harder on fuel typically. Are both set up with a buck plate in the back with a pintal and air to the rear of the truck?

What is the money on these trucks? Can you post pictures?
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:36 PM
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No they do not have a pintal on the back. I will have to add that after I purchase. Yes they were both started as dump trucks and not road tractors converterd. I dont really want a road tractor converted. These trucks ar both listed @ $75500. I am leaning more to the Pete even tho it has more miles due to the emissions. I'll try to post pics later tomorrow after I get a few.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:34 PM
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Unless everything is flat by you i'd try to find truck with bigger engines. None of these trucks will be speed demons. My Pete 335 single axle had a 300hp cat with a 8ll tranny. It had a 4.10 rear. It was only a 65 mph truck.

I'd also try to find a truck with atleast 46 rears.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:37 AM
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That is about the last 2 years that Cat built engines for highway use. Cat had a lot of engine problems the last couple of years, which is why they got out of that business. Not sure how those engines are holding up longterm. You might try to find a "big truck forum", or Cat engine forum, with a discussion section about those specific Cat engines, and get some firsthand info.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:46 PM
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So I Had a Deal come up today that I’m not sure I can pass up. Not what I’m in the market for, but think I my purchase just for a Stump and Boulder hauler. I have a Friend that has a 1990 GMC 8500 Tandem with 103,000 org. miles. 3126 Cat Engine 16' Bed not bent or dented at all just alittle wear in the bottom. All Aluminum Buds, New Rubber all the way around, Interior is in great condition and body is in great condition. Walking beam suspension Pintal Hitch and New Electric Tarp $9000. What to y’all think on this Truck?
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:18 AM
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sounds like a decent truck for the money.
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