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Old 02-12-2013, 01:38 PM
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Proper irrigation has to do with Maximum Allowable Depletion (MAD) in the root zone and has nothing to do with moisture at the surface of the soil. Mulch and other cover such as turf will reduce the surface water losses because of evaporation.

Go back and read the part of Kiril's post that you quoted.
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:43 PM
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Axe, you need to calm down and ignore the personal remarks in the Kiril/Skipster Show.

Please read someone's post correctly before sending off an inaccurate reply. You only open your self up to criticism by doing so.

Kiril wrote Further, "proper" irrigation has nothing to do with soil moisture at the surface.
Smallaxe replied and now we are to believe that moisture in the soil has nothing to do with "proper irrigation"

See the difference?
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:08 PM
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MO extension made the statement... address that...

The point that you didn't see the difference with,,, is that the subject is set at Soil Structure...

Whatever the plumbers think about MAD has nothing to do with soil structure....

This is getting way to stupid...
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Now that I know that clay's texture(platelets) has nothing to do with water infiltration, percolation, or drainage
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Old 02-12-2013, 05:17 PM
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This is getting way to stupid...
Agreed, bye.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:58 PM
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All soils, experience many variety's of saturation of water to never ever going to be wet. Planet earth has tropical jungles to vast deserts. These areas and all in-between have environmentally built soil structures, all made naturally. Plant varieties grow in vast numbers, as well as many certain varieties, based on their soil structured abilities for growth. I'd say soil structure definitely defines plant growth ability.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:53 AM
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MO extension made the statement... address that...

The point that you didn't see the difference with,,, is that the subject is set at Soil Structure...

Whatever the plumbers think about MAD has nothing to do with soil structure....

This is getting way to stupid...
MAD has nothing to do with soil structure. Soil Structure, root depth and environment are used to calculate MAD.
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Old 02-13-2013, 07:19 AM
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MAD has nothing to do with soil structure and nirther does Proper Irrigation from the plumber' POV... this was never about plumbing and plumbing POV but was about soil structure from beginning to end,,, so drop it ,,, its over...
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:32 AM
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Here is a good example of what I've been talking about... response meaning:
I was wrong on 2 things, but no explanation why... one of my mistakes was agreeing with the MO extension office...
I am done providing you information. You pretend to have all the answers, you should know what I am talking about.

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and now we are to believe that moisture in the soil has nothing to do with "proper irrigation"
Putting words in my mouth. Good for you Axe. Tell me, if the surface of the soil is dry, what is the water status at 1", 2", 3", 4"? The assumption that irrigation is needed because the surface soil is dry is wrong more times than not.

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Don't tell me that OBE isn't relevant to the remarks in this thread... is anyone going to comment further if their discussion points don't meet with kiril's approval??? snide remarks from the plumber that are without rational patterns of understanding,,, is exactly what OBE is all about... what information did kiril actually put forth??? none... derision is not information...
Hmmm, and all this coming from the guy (hypocrite) who won't shutup about "personal" attacks.

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MAD has nothing to do with soil structure and nirther does Proper Irrigation from the plumber' POV... this was never about plumbing and plumbing POV but was about soil structure from beginning to end,,, so drop it ,,, its over...
Then why do you continue to provide comment on irrigation practices?

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Old 02-13-2013, 09:38 AM
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Proper irrigation has to do with Maximum Allowable Depletion (MAD) in the root zone and has nothing to do with moisture at the surface of the soil.
In a large part, yes.

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Mulch and other cover such as turf will reduce the surface water losses because of evaporation.
Yes ..... a dry surface soil will also reduce evaporative losses.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:51 AM
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In a large part, yes.



Yes ..... a dry surface soil will also reduce evaporative losses.
I was trying to keep it simple.
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