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Old 02-01-2013, 07:16 PM
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Every year, about this this time of year, someone takes it upon themselves to warn others that "lowballers are coming". I believe two years ago, a member on here dubbed that particular year as "the year of the lowballer". But nevertheless, people are always worried about lowballers...unemployment rises, lowballers will be coming...gas prices go down, lowballers will be coming...Jim has his 7th kid, lowballers will be coming.

No matter what, this industry will always have to deal with lowballers. Let's face facts here, we work in an industry that doesn't really require much skill or investment to be able to start up. If you have a lawn mower, trimmer and a rake, you can start a lawn mowing business...grab yourself a shovel and a wheelbarrow and you are now a "landscape contractor". Realistically, you could train a monkey to mow a lawn...so why shouldn't "Joe Blow" take his lawn mower and Jeep and make a few bucks mowing lawns around town?

We are always going to have to deal with lowballers, its just the way this industry is.
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:21 PM
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Gas is to high. I pay more for gas and 10 to 15% of it is ethenoal. The price keeps going up and we are not getting 100% true gas. It should be below $2.00 dollars a gallon if fillers are added.
Fillers actually cost more unfortunately.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:22 AM
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Yes, for that reason I planned on pricing straight low as dang near balls I can handle the year throughout, thanks for the heads up.
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:24 AM
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Lowballers always come...and I notice they always go.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:23 AM
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I actually prefer the customers who don't care about quality. Not to say their yard won't look good...it obviously will. The mowers do all the work. We just point them in a straight line.
If I had that attitude, I would lose customers very quickly. I keep customers because of the work, other than the grass cutting. Weeding, pruning, edging, lawn care, cleanups, tree pruning, and the ability to do just about any landscape prokect they need done.

This is what separates the grass cutters from the landscapers. If all you are is a grass cutter, then the competition is fierce.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:29 AM
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I have a feeling that article is false. It predicts 3.43 a gallon, we're already at 3.33 here. I am betting we see $4.00 this summer.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:37 AM
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We all know higher prices weed out the chaff. Bring on higher gas prices please!
I have no idea where this comes from. Why would lower gas prices bring out low ballers? If anything the oppisite would be closer to the reality'

A good business man will know his expenses and when the price of fuel goes up, his prices would have to go up to stay profitable. The low ballers don't know thier expenses. They price to just get the job, no matter what.

So, if the price of fuel goes up, the low ballers have a better chance to get the job. Sure they might be out of business in a few years or be content with just having enough to get by. Either way, all of our prices get affected by what they do.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:44 AM
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If I had that attitude, I would lose customers very quickly. I keep customers because of the work, other than the grass cutting. Weeding, pruning, edging, lawn care, cleanups, tree pruning, and the ability to do just about any landscape prokect they need done.

This is what separates the grass cutters from the landscapers. If all you are is a grass cutter, then the competition is fierce.
Take a look at my website and see for yourself if I care about quality or not.

www.creativelawncaresolutions.com

It's not an "attitude." The people that just want their lawn mowed once a week are so much easier to deal with then the people looking over your work with a fine tooth comb.

Also, edging and pruning isn't rocket science. We all do all of those things. The machines do all the work. We just point them in the right direction.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:18 AM
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We all know higher prices weed out the chaff. Bring on higher gas prices please!
I see why your name has those last three letters on it.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:59 AM
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Gas prices are not something I can change or control. This passage comes to mind....
God, give me grace to accept with serenity
the things that cannot be changed,
Courage to change the things
which should be changed,
and the Wisdom to distinguish
the one from the other.
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