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Old 03-02-2013, 04:27 PM
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Someone help me out because I don't see the value in purchasing the TurfMaster over the TimeMaster, not for the price difference. The only major difference is the Kawi motor. But even then, what's the replacement cost for a 190cc Briggs?

Maybe I'm wrong and someone can shed some wisdom on me.

I understand buying the TurfMaster and having a Warranty with your dealer sounds good...but how long will it take for them to work on your machine/have it fixed in the middle of the summer?

For me this would only be a mower where we would use on a couple lawns a week in place of the 36" any thoughts?
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:37 PM
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Someone help me out because I don't see the value in purchasing the TurfMaster over the TimeMaster, not for the price difference. The only major difference is the Kawi motor. But even then, what's the replacement cost for a 190cc Briggs?

Maybe I'm wrong and someone can shed some wisdom on me.

I understand buying the TurfMaster and having a Warranty with your dealer sounds good...but how long will it take for them to work on your machine/have it fixed in the middle of the summer?

For me this would only be a mower where we would use on a couple lawns a week in place of the 36" any thoughts?
Honestly if your only using it on a couple lawns a week the timemaster would be fine. If you used it everyday the turfmaster would be the way to go.
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:40 PM
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Honestly if your only using it on a couple lawns a week the timemaster would be fine. If you used it everyday the turfmaster would be the way to go.
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Got ya...yeah it'll be used in place of hauling a 36" around. We use our zero turns on 99% of our properties, which is nice.
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:12 PM
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I purchased an Exmark 30 yesterday and ran it today. I am very impressed with it. Didn't mow anything really thick as lawn's are just starting to come out of dormancy. It definitely rev's higher than my Toro 21's with the same engine. Seem's like there is no lack of power. Very maneuverable, great cut. I would have liked the toro version better but no dealers around me had 1 in stock. The dual handle system is alright but would prefer the toro single system. The drive handle spring tension is a little to tight and fatigued the hands a little. Hoping it will lighten up with use. The front wheel system is nice but hurts your hand when you pull up on the release handle thing.

I will more than likely end up buying another. I have 2-2 man crews, 1 with 2 toro 21's and a Walker 42" MT and the other with a Navigator 48" and 2 toro 21's. Will put the 30 with the Navigator cause the bigger deck can't get into some back yards. Also when the nav or walker are to heavy for a wet lawn, the 30 would be perfect.

Paid $1869 plus tax here in California. Yeah it's high but it will more than make up for it in productivity. A toro 21 goes for $1250 and the Exmark 21 $1300. $600 to get less operator fatigue and faster mowing production is worth it in my book.
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Old 03-02-2013, 09:32 PM
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Im hoping to get a look at the Exmark on monday. Hopefulythe dealer finally gets it in stock.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:52 AM
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exmark 30 demo

hello guys, i demo'd one of the exmark 30's for a day on friday. i'm going to buy one next week. thought it worked great. we have alot of smaller yards in this area that we've always had to use a 21 to get into the backyards. perfect fit for this mower. had a real nice cut and saw a nice increase in productivity over the 21. was a little concerned with the weight increase but after using it on a couple yards i quickly realized the weight distribution is well balanced and the mower is easily manuverable. just as easy as a 21. still early in the year so i'm interested to see what it will do come mid summer with thick or wet grass, but seemed to have plenty of power and never bogged. was real nice to be able and stop the blade as opposed to the 21- much safer when emptying bag etc., and also alot easier to start due to the blade not being engaged upon start up. my guys seemed to like it alot. we use walkers on all yards except these small gate rears and the cut was great- picked up leaves etc. with one pass nicely. also mulched a couple just to see what it would do and it left a nice clean cut. easy to adjust height- happy to get rid of those pita height adjustment that comes along with the 21 front wheels after about one season. personally been waiting for a mower like this one, it's a nice step up from the 21 for small yards with no access. clippings were cut up nicely with the 2 blades and bag was easily emptied. machine seems very well built and thought out. it's a little more pricey for a small machine, but definitely i can see where it will save on time and energy in certain areas. like all other pieces of equipment- they have their specific spots where they shine. small yards, i think this is a winner.
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:24 AM
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does the exmark 30 have the same easy height adjust that the toro does, the two step process?
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:26 AM
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Same in the rear, front has the same as the Exmark 21, removable wheels.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:38 AM
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I picked up the Toro yesterday and got to use it on one commercial property and my home lawn.

Just normal height grass, but the machine is great. Handled just like a 21" but really cut down on the mowing time. I can't ever see using a 21 again except on very tiny patches we do or if a gate is an issue.

We work in an urban residential area with small lawns so our 36" always isn't an option. The 30" feels like its going to be a real game changer for our situation.

I got the Toro for $1800.00 but had the option of the Exmark at $1630.00. I didn't hesitate to get the Toro because of the height adjustment. Just playing with the Exmark at the dealer the front wheel height adjusters got stuck several times. If the rear wheels are higher you almost have to prop up the deck to change the height on the Exmark. Plus, if a different person is using the Exmark from house to house, they really have to strain to see what height the front wheel is at. You'd literally need to get on your knees to look at the inside part of the wheel to see where the height it set. I really think Exmark made a big mistake with the front wheels.

The Toro height adjustment is incredible. Very pleased with the purchase.
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Old 03-03-2013, 01:22 PM
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its funny how many posts there are on this subject and most of us still have snow on the ground. i think this may be one of the longest running threads one u guys get to actually start testing out yer machines. for me this mower could actually conform to my business goals of pursuing smaller lawns.most of the time it seems like im making more off of my smaller lawns bc the bigger ones dont want 2 pay that much more for the time involved. plus since bop went out of biz ill need something to replace my qui
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