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Old 03-06-2013, 09:41 AM
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That's the thing with the belt slip, there is a fine line between too tight and too loose, my 21's are the same way. Especially when they are new, the have a break in period for the cables/belts to slack up a little.
So how does the drive engagement compare with the Exmark vs. Toro Commercial...? This for me is a bigger issue than front wheel adjustment in total fiddle factor.

I have the Time Master 30 with personal pace and it's fine for slight grades however there is one account I occasionaly mow when the owner can't and it's a total pita. Full of steep up and down and tree roots and I just use my yBravo25 in low range. Personal Pace absolutely is the worst on a lawn like that.
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:43 AM
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I think the drives are the same.
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:32 PM
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I think the drives are the same.
The actual transmission and driver assembly yes....I was wondering about how smooth and ergonomically ideal or correct the engagement levers are for drive between the Toro and Exmark commercial.

Example the Toro Time master 30 persoanl pace is hands down faster less hassle that the yBravo25....the majority of the time.
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:55 PM
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Well I picked up my Exmark Commercial blades for my consumer Toro TimeMaster 30 today [yes considerably more lift to the sail angle etc.] and I saw the Exmark 30 in person. Noticeably heavier , mulch plug is identical from what I can tell, and the front wheel height adjustment looks like a major hassle-fest compared the one handed operation it is for me with my Toro TimeMaster...?

I'm thinking the consumer Toro ™30 will STILL have it's place for commercial use in MY hands. Employees beating up on equipment.... not so much.

Jury is out for me. Gave the dealer my biz card to set up a demo on my lawn or a clients lawn along with a stand on Examrk/ Lawn Solutions aerator demo. My sprinklers are spray marker painted as are one of my clients lawn which is larger lawn than mine. Time will tell.
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:58 PM
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Well I picked up my Exmark Commercial blades for my consumer Toro TimeMaster 30 today [yes considerably more lift to the sail angle etc.] and I saw the Exmark 30 in person. Noticeably heavier , mulch plug is identical from what I can tell, and the front wheel height adjustment looks like a major hassle-fest compared the one handed operation it is for me with my Toro TimeMaster...?

I'm thinking the consumer Toro ™30 will STILL have it's place for commercial use in MY hands. Employees beating up on equipment.... not so much.

Jury is out for me. Gave the dealer my biz card to set up a demo on my lawn or a clients lawn along with a stand on Examrk/ Lawn Solutions aerator demo. My sprinklers are spray marker painted as are one of my clients lawn which is larger lawn than mine. Time will tell.
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The Exmark actually feels lighter when mowing then my Honda commercial mower.
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:16 AM
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The Exmark actually feels lighter when mowing then my Honda commercial mower.
Really...? There are a number of Honda HRC 21" operators that have jumped ship in favor of the yBravo25 due to parts costs.

The consumer Toro ™30 feels more nimble and lighter than my yBravo25...?
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:01 AM
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Really...? There are a number of Honda HRC 21" operators that have jumped ship in favor of the yBravo25 due to parts costs.

The consumer Toro ™30 feels more nimble and lighter than my yBravo25...?
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The Exmark engine is mounted farther back on the deck. I know its a heavier mower but it seams well balanced. I had 3 guys use it yesterday and we all agreed that it didn't feel "heavy" when mowing.

I replace the Honda HRC 21 after about 3 years use. Parts cost is not really an issue.

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Old 03-07-2013, 10:13 AM
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How is this mower bagging? I need something that can go through gated back yards and pick up some light leave cover ect.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:44 AM
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How is this mower bagging? I need something that can go through gated back yards and pick up some light leave cover ect.
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The lawns aren't tall enough yet to give it a good workout. The bag is easy to dump and the chute is larger than the Honda.
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:59 AM
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Picked up my commercial Toro 30 two days ago. Snowed this morning so not much use yet. I did mow 5 min. in my side yard at home. A couple of thoughts:

Pros.
It is maybe only 25% more cumbersome than the 21 to maneuver. I like the fact the bag is out of the way enough that I can take long strides and not kick it when I walk. It covers ground a lot quicker. This will be a great mower for 80% of the lawns I've traditionally used 21's on.
I think I will really like the wheel adjusters once I get used to them.

Cons.
It seemed to be a bit long legged when spooling up the blades. It may have been because the engine was cold, but it took noticeably longer than my 21 to spin those blades at full speed. Hope that doesn't mean it will bog easier. However, I have not yet bumped the rpm's up on the engine as I do my 21's. That will probably help.

Also, this is not a steep hillside mower. If you have lawns that make you lean back against the 21 to keep it from running away down hill, don't use this mower on that lawn. It's too heavy and will run away from you... if you don't slip first.

Over all, I'm excited to get out and do some real mowing with it.

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