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Old 02-21-2013, 11:47 PM
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I went to my dealer to purchase a new mower. I was trying to decide between the Toro Turfmaster and the 21" 22197. I played with the Turfmaster, but after feeling it, it's just is too heavy. Also, I worried about the motor being underpowered. I went with the 21" 22197 model. I would rather go with the 32" proline if I went larger than 21".
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:30 AM
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The full review will be up today for sure
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Old 02-22-2013, 12:23 PM
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Looking forward to this, I have to replace my Toro SR4 superrecycler...all i do is mulch. The SR4 lasted me about 6 years but I would like a little more power and speed for my 1/3 acre of mowing with lots of trees in the front yard. I am concerned about the timed dual blades. Maybe I should just go with a 21 and be done with it. Do they still sell the Toro Proline 21's with Honda motors?

My dealer only has Kawa's at the moment. Any preference for Honda motor over the Kawa on these units?

Im clearly just a home owner hack but don't want to waste time/money repairing mower and want to get the job done as quickly as possible. The residential units are just built so chincy I hate to spend money on one of those things.

Is the drive/transmission the same in the residential TimeMaser vs the "Commercial" TurfMaster?

Really looking forward to your review/thoughts.
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Old 02-22-2013, 12:40 PM
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As a note I did talk to a dealer about the toro 30" and he made the comment that the few they had sold(don't know if they were commercial or res. units) and he said he had complaints that the were difficult to turn and recommended a Billy Goat 33"($999 plus $79 for a mulch kit) mower because it had castors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX7pO0XitXw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DUAzGSbYOg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7xFWx-_ZI8

vs. toro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksFz81iJsx4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi179ydcLc0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEIa9tcU0RQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDNq03WlKb4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMshfGrsgFk
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:12 PM
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As a note I did talk to a dealer about the toro 30" and he made the comment that the few they had sold(don't know if they were commercial or res. units) and he said he had complaints that the were difficult to turn and recommended a Billy Goat 33"($999 plus $79 for a mulch kit) mower because it had castors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX7pO0XitXw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DUAzGSbYOg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7xFWx-_ZI8

vs. toro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksFz81iJsx4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi179ydcLc0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEIa9tcU0RQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDNq03WlKb4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMshfGrsgFk
Um those Billy Goat mowers....huge pass for me. Looks flimsy and cumbersome. Plus it's side discharge.... Any of my BOP mowers would slay that. Problem is Gary is on the sidelines for the moment.

Most of the videos show the homeowner model. The shots of the commercial model....? Um it's leaving track marks....?

Sorry Toro....it looks to be be a bit too heavy for those skinny hard wheels....?
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:19 PM
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Um those Billy Goat mowers....huge pass for me. Looks flimsy and cumbersome. Plus it's side discharge.... Any of my BOP mowers would slay that. Problem is Gary is on the sidelines for the moment.

Most of the videos show the homeowner model. The shots of the commercial model....? Um it's leaving track marks....?

Sorry Toro....it looks to be be a bit too heavy for those skinny hard wheels....?
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How is that timemaster holding up after a year of use? Bought one of the commercial ones this year waiting for it to be delivered. Thinking of complementing it with a timemaster also. 26's are near done of their useful life so have to find another option other than the Bravo 25's (we have enough of those), just looking to up production with a mower anybody can use.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:27 PM
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I think the video of the commercial model with the tires tracks is because it looks like its very wet out and it was taken in the fall, there isn't even grass to cut. If you compare it to a 21 proline which weighs about 115lbs its not that big of a difference with the turfmaster being 170lbs but having wider tires, just my thoughts but who knows.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:30 PM
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How is that timemaster holding up after a year of use? Bought one of the commercial ones this year waiting for it to be delivered. Thinking of complementing it with a timemaster also. 26's are near done of their useful life so have to find another option other than the Bravo 25's (we have enough of those), just looking to up production with a mower anybody can use.
It has held up fairly well but it is simply not a primary use mower for me. Both the T30 and yBravo25 are mowers I use as 21" replacements.

I think getting one commercial unit and a homeowner unit is safer.

On steep up and down slopes I prefer the yBravo25. Most smaller lawns Toro is faster and easier. I don't really find it to be underpowered.
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I need to contact Ybravo re the tranny. In high gear it is iffy and jerk and yanks. My trans has the red hash mark on it fwiw.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:45 PM
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It has held up fairly well but it is simply not a primary use mower for me. Both the T30 and yBravo25 are mowers I use as 21" replacements.

I think getting one commercial unit and a homeowner unit is safer.

On steep up and down slopes I prefer the yBravo25. Most smaller lawns Toro is faster and easier. I don't really find it to be underpowered.
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Knowing that you really enjoy testing the mowers have you found a better blade for the timemaster that would also be good for the turfmaster?
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:52 PM
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Knowing that you really enjoy testing the mowers have you found a better blade for the timemaster that would also be good for the turfmaster?
I have some assorted Oregon® blades pending modification. Been a rough last 9 months with personal issues and running 2 businesses and all but I need to get my rear in gear on that. Stock blades are okay but it would be swell to have 50%+ more lift for cleanup and wet bagging duty. Generally stock blades are decent.

I also have a blade or 2 pending mods for the yBravo25. Oregon ® blades are brutally hard to drill. Angle grinding with cut off tool is skate in comparison.
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