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Old 03-04-2013, 08:25 AM
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starting fluid question?????

Hello all just wondering what you mechanics think of this. had a problem with starting a 5hp briggs, clean carb and all that, still could not get it started. A friend took off the spark plug and sprayed starting fluid in the spark plug hole then put the plug back in and tried to start on the 3rd pull the piston froze. Locked up the engine. My questions are has this ever happened to anyone? Did putting the starting fluid in the cylinder cause the engine to seize up. Just looking for some input on this thanks for all input.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:39 AM
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I have been a dealer since 1985. I owned & operated a landscape maintenance & irrigation business from 1983 until 1996.

My dealership sells and services several brands of outdoor power equipment, all brands of box store equipment, all brands of RV generators and several brands of home standby generators.

I have not allowed any starting fluid to be used in my business for 30 years so the answer is:

NO!
NEVER!
NO WAY!
AIN'T HAPPENING HERE!

If an engine won't start on gasoline, diesel, propane or natural gas my techs fix it.

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Old 03-04-2013, 12:00 PM
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AIN'T HAPPENING HERE!
Same here, I don't allow the stuff in the shop......

Had this engine been sitting up any length of time ?
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:51 PM
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If you use it

It goes thru the air filter or the carb.. never in the spark plug hole... I see you keep it close for those fords
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:38 PM
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I've never seen a mechanic use that stuff...a few backyard bubba's...oh yeah...
Ether instantly washes away all your lubrication...I can see where it could sieze an engine..
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:42 PM
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thanks

I was just asking about the damage. thanks to all.
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Old 03-04-2013, 04:03 PM
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No! The starting fluid did not cause the piston to seize up.
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Old 03-04-2013, 04:35 PM
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No! The starting fluid did not cause the piston to seize up.
If the crank locked up...prolly not...
If the piston dug into the cylinder and siezed long enuf to snap the rod...perhaps...

Opinions on starter fluid all depend on which side of the trailer you are on..
Most Techs dont like it and wouldnt use it..
Landscapers like anything that will crank it up...so they can just get-r-dun..
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:31 PM
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Had this engine been sitting up any length of time ?
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I was just asking about the damage

Since you didn't answer my question, I'll go ahead and explain why I asked.

I've had many engines come in the shop that hadn't been ran in quite some time, A engine left sitting can cause carbon build-up on the head and piston to dry out. Once this carbon dries it can break loose at the first pop of trying to restart, I've seen enough carbon that would keep a piston from coming up all the way thus locking the engine up.

This may not be your issue but at-least it's added to this thread for others to see and have a direction to go should they have a like issue, It doesn't necessarily have to be a galled/seized piston from starting fluid.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:10 PM
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Are we talking about starting fluid/ether, carbchoke/brake cleaner or both?

I'll have to admit that with 30-50 push mowers waiting in the bull pen every morning for 3-4 weeks in the spring, carbchoke/brake cleaner was one of my primary diagnostic tools, particularly on work orders that specified a "will not start" issue. A shot of carbchoke cleaner and a crank quickly reveals a fuel issue.

Never used ether nor was choke/break cleaner overused. Never experienced any problems in doing so.

If I'm wrong in doing so, let the "whuppin" begin.
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