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Old 03-09-2013, 09:38 PM
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Your engine problems are going to be directly related to your battery and whatever happened when your tried to jumpstart it..
Starters don't generally go bad from sitting....
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Old 03-09-2013, 09:40 PM
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Jump starting the engine did not break it. im not that dumb. and how can the battery be the casue if i have replace the battery and have the exact same symptoms?
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Old 03-09-2013, 09:55 PM
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I derno. but it has to be teh solenoid. iv got 12v to the starter, and 12v ground from the starter when the key is on. and if i bypass the solenoid the starter runs.

there is no doubte. the solenoid is bad. does kouler sell rebuild kits?
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Old 03-09-2013, 10:48 PM
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I derno. but it has to be teh solenoid. iv got 12v to the starter, and 12v ground from the starter when the key is on. and if i bypass the solenoid the starter runs.

there is no doubte. the solenoid is bad. does kouler sell rebuild kits?
Just trying to help....not argue...
It appears that you know everything...except why your engine isn't running...
I have helped hundreds of people on this site...and have had little success helping people that know more than I do...
Nobody called you stupid or anything else...who knows...it might be a bad starter..???
I give the same methodical objective advice regardless of whether it is liked or not..

You never learn anything until you admit you don't know it all...
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Old 03-09-2013, 10:49 PM
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Just trying to help....not argue...
It appears that you know everything...except why your engine isn't running...
I have helped hundreds of people on this site...and have had little success helping people that know more than I do...
Nobody called you stupid or anything else...who knows...it might be a bad starter..???
I give the same methodical objective advice regardless of whether it is liked or not..

You never learn anything until you admit you don't know it all...
I dont know it all. that is why i came here to get help.
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Old 03-09-2013, 10:52 PM
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Ok. talked with my pop. the solenoid is the problem. The bendex (part that pushes the gear out) is controlled by the solenoid. this is why when i bypass the solenoid the starter will spin and the gear will not pop out.

To test the solenoid (disconnected from the engine) i jumped from my car battery positive to the positive of the solenoid, and then from negative battery to the smaller ground wire of the solenoid. if the solenoid was good, the bindex would have pushed the gear out. but it did not. so that means the solenoid is bad.

Iv also checked that im getting 12 volts to the solenoid. and also checked that i have a full 12 v on the ground from the solenoid when the key is turned. the mower is fine, the starter is fine. i jsut need a new solenoid assuming i can find an inverted torx bit to get it off.
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:40 AM
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Inverted torx or just a 12 point head? Sears has those multi head type sockets that work pretty good, provided it hasn't been assembled by a gorilla with loctite.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:46 AM
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Sounds like you have a Delco starter...
Kohler used 3 different versions of that starter...3 different solenoids..
When you get the solenoid off...see if there is a buildup of crud on the plunger...
Even a little dirt will cause it to stick...and not engage the starter drive..
Sometimes you can clean them...and they work again...
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:29 PM
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Well. not the battery nor the solenoid.

Im going to have to start tracking the wires through all the switches. im thinking its the ignition switch.
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:30 PM
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also, seems i was testing the ignition wire like a cub cadet. most likely why i got the weird results
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