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Old 02-05-2009, 11:03 AM
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Herbicide damage on trees?

Does anyone know if there's something that TruGreen lawn service use on weeds during the fall that could have caused Mexican (bald) cypress (evergreen version of American bald cypress) to turn brown within a week in mid December? That's what I observed at the neighborhood park across the street. I have same tree and it kept its green foliage all the way though January before turning 'winter' color (bald cypress tend to turn color in November). The ones at the park simply turned brown and fell off. I stratched the bark and it's still green but I wonder about long term effect on those trees. My biggest worry is that during the summer, I get a very strong south wind from the park to my yard and TruGreen sprays everywhere and the winds would blow whatever it is onto my yard. I asked HOA about it but they are useless. Won't tell me anything.
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:21 PM
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are you the guy that all the chem PCO's at lawnsite keep busting on??? the one that they say is a trouble maker??


If your not that same dude then why not go with organics at the park, I can give you a name or try looking for lawnsite organic forum. they would like your question, several of us there have some smarts of sorts, maybe an answer or 3
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:37 PM
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are you the guy that all the chem PCO's at lawnsite keep busting on??? the one that they say is a trouble maker??


If your not that same dude then why not go with organics at the park, I can give you a name or try looking for lawnsite organic forum. they would like your question, several of us there have some smarts of sorts, maybe an answer or 3
HOA doesn't care about organic stuff. I already provided information. I guess you can't do much with Communist HOA. They don't give a damn what rest of neighbors thinks. It's just old grumpy guy that's a president of HOA acting like he knows everything but he doesn't. He thinks that 3 times a week for 15-20 minutes each time will keep trees and grass alive during 100*F weather when it's not raining much for many months but I kept everthing alive with all night long watering once a month manually. I guess you can't teach old dogs new tricks...
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:45 PM
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ok so let the trees die and replant new ones that wil be supported buy that enviornment or feed them some myco powder. after that just wait for the old fart to die...


next step call the DOA or con serv???
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:45 PM
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I did volunteer to apply Lesco 39-0-0, etc to save HOA a lot of money since we are small and do not pay much dues. 3,000 dollars to pay TruGreen... I did warn HOA that we'd have a lot of bare ground after TruGreen applied weed killer (apparently caused damages to trees as well) and applied pre-em weed control last week. Now we have large area of bareground. We don't have $$$ for sodding. We can't even grow bermuda grass from seeds because of pre-em application. Not very smart....

Mowed weeds is much better than bare ground park... for soil building.. keep soil soft while grass gradually fills in but HOA doesn't understand the proper watering and fertilizing at all.
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:57 PM
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ok this is abut over, you have no idea how to feed anything and you want to take responsibility for some trees?? take my hint and find A professional to do the work, quit trying to undo bad work and make it worse.... Why not go read some of the stuff posted on lawn site, head over to the organic forum, the pro PCO's don't like you already, and learn what to feed plants, don't just try and bust out with the 46-0-0. it wreaks of ignorance.

like i said find some myco powder= mycorrhiza
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:58 PM
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ok so let the trees die and replant new ones that wil be supported buy that enviornment or feed them some myco powder. after that just wait for the old fart to die...


next step call the DOA or con serv???


I don't know if Myco powder works at all. Im more of mulch person. 5-7 feet wide mulch seems to make a huge difference. Replant trees? Are you kidding? we're not that rich. Previous HOA board asked me to plant but little money so I did all the work myself. I turned 12 dollars trees into 120-150 dollars trees in a year because I understand what trees really require to thrive so I saved HOA a lot of money. Apparently, the current HOA doesn't see that way. Their trees look very ugly. Not much of lawn. Mine is that much better but I don't have time to be on HOA board. I guess that's what happens when you have guys running the board when they don't have jobs or trying to look after young kids. There are plenty of others that would do it right but they have demanding jobs and kids to worry about. Next time I move, I'd make sure there's no HOA. I don't need HOA telling me what grass, trees, shrubs to plant and what cars to buy (it does happen somewhere in Dallas).
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:00 PM
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ok this is abut over, you have no idea how to feed anything and you want to take responsibility for some trees?? take my hint and find A professional to do the work, quit trying to undo bad work and make it worse.... Why not go read some of the stuff posted on lawn site, head over to the organic forum, the pro PCO's don't like you already, and learn what to feed plants, don't just try and bust out with the 46-0-0. it wreaks of ignorance.

like i said find some myco powder= mycorrhiza
46-0-0 is not same as 39-0-0.

Clearly you're very clueless. Whatever.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:08 PM
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39-0-0 100%ppscu opps, not urea prills. any ways this is done...point was for trees not the best idea to go with the N

also if you read some of my old post i have listed my formal education
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:15 PM
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<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tw014NKbKAtopo5X8-evrQ?authkey=Gv1sRgCPG2usPsopWSdQ&feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_MwCo341X_Zg/R9AL_brnu8I/AAAAAAAACBs/pwTtZKKui4o/s800/DSC00359.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/louis.truett/BeforeAndAfterLawn?authkey=Gv1sRgCPG2usPsopWSdQ&feat=embedwebsite">Before and After Lawn</a></td></tr></table>

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All organically cared for. HOA doesn't give a flying rat's ass about it and I was offering a compromise. 39-0-0 is a slow release fertilize unlike 46-0-0 or whatever TruBurn is using.

For trees ... I know how to grow them. HOA doesn't have a clue when you look at their trees... barely grew...

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2nd year

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3rd year

1st year - no growth. 2nd and 3rd year - 7 feet. You don't see that in many trees else where because of drought. I knew how to water deeply every 2 weeks while they just waste watering 3 times a week for 15 mins a week where water would never have reached the roots.
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