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Old 03-31-2013, 05:09 PM
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Funny pipe funny pipe.....

So I pick up a new account on Friday. Major complaint is low pressure on a system installed last year , but they can't get intouch with installer. When I get into the basement to turn on the system I find a 3/4 inch shark bite tee to pex, ballvalve no backflow and out the wall in pex. Pex to dura manifold and one inch poly out of the box... 4 hunters per zone with 7 nozzles.... Guess what heads barely poping..... Grab gauge to see flow rate. A whopping 4 gpm at 20 psi.... There is a minor leak outside the box so we dig it up to see what's up, and we find all zones had 1 foot of one inch then all reduced down to funny pipe. So I tell them what is wrong lol not like anything is right . Long story short I tell them to get them up to code with backflow and reinstall 5 zones for $2450. The response is well that's 3 times what I paid originally, and they will try and get the original installer to fix the leak....wtf is wrong with people... Gottaa love long island....
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:26 PM
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Haha i knew this was LI for some reason.
What towns do you serve?
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:30 PM
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Northshore . Brookville to Calverton. Only south shore work is in the Hamptons but that's a long haul.
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:32 PM
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Swing pipe has notorious friction loss rates + the fittings; I'd say the system is jacked, by what you describe. 6" of swing pipe is all I permitted, except in 12" hi-pop situations.
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:34 PM
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Lol its all funny pipe. Hundreds of feet of funny pipe. 5 zone system consisting of 5 feet of 1 inch total...
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:44 PM
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Lol its all funny pipe. Hundreds of feet of funny pipe. 5 zone system consisting of 5 feet of 1 inch total...
Just for jollies,(and to help convince the client that they are screwed) browse thru any manufacturer's charts of friction loss for swing pipe and fittings. It's brutal.
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:11 PM
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Northshore . Brookville to Calverton. Only south shore work is in the Hamptons but that's a long haul.
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Hey kneez you get out to south fork much?
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Old 03-31-2013, 07:14 PM
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No sir , only time we are out that way is when one of our contractors or builders are doing a project out there. We are about to resume work on a project in remsenburg that we started in December. It's a sizeable job that changes daily ... It's on an 12 million dollar house ( baby stuff as far as the Hamptons are concerned I know. ) that has been going through more landscape architects then u can shake a stick at. It's amazing the owner said he only plans on being at this home around 1 to 2 months a year... Must be nice to have options like that. Since we don't have enough properties in the area to provide promt and efficient service, we are looking to hook up with a reputable company out there to provide service after our installations are completed and we satisfy our initial warranty period. Sure is nice out there... Summer traffic has to be a disaster.... I can't even imagine.
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Old 03-31-2013, 07:51 PM
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im guilty of doing this with about 4 sprays and 30 feet of funny pipe, I didnt know at the time.

But it works!!! and turf looks good

If it ever fails I'll replace it free, its worth the story lol
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:10 AM
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Just for jollies,(and to help convince the client that they are screwed) browse thru any manufacturer's charts of friction loss for swing pipe and fittings. It's brutal.
I agree but to test the manuals, I installed (1) PGP with a #6 red nozzle (with screw limited radius) with 10-feet of funny pipe in my own yard. It is about 3 ft reduction in radius (vs others on the same zone with same nozzle) but for the issues on manual labor etc it was a homerun. And precip was about the same.

Would I do this for others, nope, but sometimes flow rates vs labor vs materials is your friend.
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