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Old 04-13-2013, 04:31 PM
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Topsoil (New lawn prep) need some help

Whats going on everyone, right now i'm bidding on a job and had a pricing question, i know everyone here dislikes these questions and has different operating costs but i'm just looking to see if i am in the right ballpark here.
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13,752 sqft of area that only has fill right now due to new home construction, homeowner requested pricing for 4" and 6" of topsoil which will probably be adequate do to really bony fill at the surface. So with my math at 4" i'm coming up with 170 yards of topsoil which costs me $20 per yard delivered and at 6" im coming up with 254 yards of topsoil. The area surrounds the whole house front back and side yards, very easy access with equipment with the exception of the area directly over the septic tank. What would you guys quote on a job like this? Can i get away with less than 4" or is the fill gonna end up poking its nasty head up through the turf down the road.
Thanks for any help you can give i really appreciate it.
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:13 PM
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If homeowner is requesting 4-6 why are you trying to go with less? Quoting this job would be simple. what is your hourly rate for this kind of work? How long do you think it will take you? Ste you hauling topsoil in or having it delivered?
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:42 PM
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If homeowner is requesting 4-6 why are you trying to go with less? Quoting this job would be simple. what is your hourly rate for this kind of work? How long do you think it will take you? Ste you hauling topsoil in or having it delivered?
From my math and my rates i'm coming in at $8,600 for everything including seeding of lawn etc.. does this sound high?
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:45 PM
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And as for the 4-6" I was thinking less to save them some money however I dont think the results we be to a standard I would like

And the price above is for 4"

For the material it will be hauled in by a close friend of mine with the tri-axle who has a local trucking company, so i have to pay for material and trucking
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:24 PM
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What's your hourly rate your charging?
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:54 PM
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Around $200 p\hour for the mini ex + skid, harley rake, myself and a laborer etc..
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:08 PM
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I would figure on some extra loam over what your calculations got you. No way your going to be able to put exactly 4" down
Also what do you need a mini excavator for on this job? skid, bucket and harley. Bucket out all the material evenly as possible then use the harley to smooth everything out.
Only you can accuratly tell what is a good going rate in your market.
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:09 PM
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Just trying to get a ball park on what other markets are getting, the mini will be there for some
Other small stuff that needs to get done around a Pond
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For what it's worth this is what I do.

First: I would use a small dozer (Deere 450) and grade everything for positive drainage and back drag the whole thing to remove any rocks that I could.

Second: I would power rake what they have first so all of the exposed rocks are picked out and the yard is graded properly. Then determine what the fill is and if it is organic or not. The non organic areas will need topsoil

Third: I would place topsoil over areas that need it either with a skid steer or dozer and depending on how wet the topsoil is will depend on if you will need to hand rake it out. Using a power rake can be done but you will need to be very carefully because if you go two deep with the rake you will pull up the fill into the topsoil including the rocks underneath. I sell the topsoil as an extra by the yard after the first two steps are complete. The customer can decide how much they need depending on what we have after the first two steps. I give the price per yard up front and an estimated amount, could be more could be less depending on what we have after we clean it up.

Fourth: We seed it, raking in the seed and spray chopped hay or straw over area. 6 acreas will take 50 to 75 bails depending on what size, dryness and what cut you use. The customer determines if they want to pay extra for the straw. We use a bale chopper for this.

Five: We go back and check on the growth, make sure the grass is growing and touch up any spots that need it after 60 to 90 days of growth.

Six: We will sell the customer a driveway, sidewalk, anything else they need after they see how nice the new yard comes out.
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Old 04-14-2013, 12:29 AM
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