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Old 04-12-2013, 09:38 PM
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working on the business vs in the business

ive been owner op since i started never really liked it or didnt like it now that im getting busier i see that id rather work on getting jobs then doing the physical labor junk.

when did some of you smaller guys switch to managing or any input on either ??

im still a small company no doubt though in 2 years i can double or triple just do not want quality to slip
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Old 04-13-2013, 01:18 AM
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I'm in the exact same situation. I've been turning down bids for the last three weeks because I'm booked for two months and no one will wait that long. I have super effective advertising, but I feel I would have to double or triple my work load before hireing a crew to do what I'm doing now and focus on job creation . When do you make the move to hire?
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Old 04-13-2013, 01:30 AM
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i needa find a worker who knows what hes doin and doesnt have 2 be watched had a great guy last year sucks to lose him to another job though. i feel like if i have to 6 days a week its time to find a worker and more work. ultimatly i just want 1 3 man crew or 2 man and me and do about 200k a season in revenue
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Old 04-13-2013, 02:16 AM
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Ultimately, it will be very tough to find someone who will ever work as hard as you. Good business owners still work on site as well to ensure jobs turn out properly. Also, 200K in revenue with workers is kind of a low amount. You need to shoot higher but I definitely feel your pain on the other topic. Best of luck!
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Old 04-13-2013, 02:20 AM
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200 seems like alot out here main mowing price is 25 bucks quarter acre, needa start getting more side jobs and commercial
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Old 04-13-2013, 02:21 AM
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i just wana find a hard wrker who wants to work and doesnt have to be babysat
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Old 04-13-2013, 08:32 AM
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Great workers are not found, they are trained and taught over and over again. If you have super effective advertising, then start growing and add ONE employee. Then, add another. You need these baby steps to get workload and labor capacity to the place where you can justify a crew of 3 guys or whatever. Along the way, youre going to have to do a lot of that "crummy labor" stuff.
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Old 04-13-2013, 08:35 AM
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i just wana find a hard wrker who wants to work and doesnt have to be babysat
When you find that employee will you let me know

I still work in the field, my plan is to work in the field for another 10-15 years unless growth forces me out. I enjoy both sides of the business, 200k seems reasonable for your goal of 2 crews, I would aim slightly higher but it is a good starting point.
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Old 04-13-2013, 09:00 AM
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When you find that employee will you let me know

I still work in the field, my plan is to work in the field for another 10-15 years unless growth forces me out. I enjoy both sides of the business, 200k seems reasonable for your goal of 2 crews, I would aim slightly higher but it is a good starting point.
1 crew 2 ft and 1 pt worker aiminig for 200k,

and i had a great worker just lost him due to his regular job he found as being a mechanic sucks!!!
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:04 AM
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Ive got a guy wanting to come work for me now. He's a guy I know will do it right and work hard without supervision. But he wants $18 a hour. Not sure I want to take on that kind of payroll just yet.
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