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Old 05-18-2013, 12:45 AM
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If your doing any type of heavy duty work, especially in this industry, I say you need diesel. I would rather have enough power when I need it that not enough and have to go out and rent a truck for $235 a day...

Plus today's diesels get 20+ MPG | I vote Powerstroke = 400HP/800TQ
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Greasy Monkey View Post
I've been a diesel tech for over a decade now, and the best running machine I ever had the joy of driving was a '97 Ram with the 12V Cummins. (noted, those were notorious for cooking the trans, but a quick fix with a drill bit and you're set.) My point is over the last 10 years, the industry has killed what used to be a good thing. I was getting 27-30mpg's in a lifted 3/4 ton truck with a long bed. You just aren't going to find that anymore with all the stuff they put on these new trucks. Between the DPF's, EGR's, and computer systems, you are choking your diesel to death. So, as a commuter, you want something new and shiny...but as for me, the older, the better. (I did a side job and dropped a GM 6.2 diesel out of a wood chipper into a buddy's truck, he's getting 32mpg's and after 4 years, never a tick out of that engine.)
I agree. Today's diesels cost too much for what they offer. They look awesome and have great extra features, but some of the older diesels have proven worthy for over 10 years so why not buy them. I'm getting great mileage on my 24 valve and i can do all the repair stuff myself.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:55 AM
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Had a 2011 dodge dually 4x4 with the 6.7. It would not break 11 mpg with a light foot unloaded. iIt was stock and under warranty and did not want to remove DPF or anything else. It tow anything but it was way too nice to work out of and the milage should have been a lot better. Rode smoother than my ford f250 .
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it's the DPF and EGR systems that are killing it. i got rid of mine and get 18-20 unloaded
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:19 AM
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That's pretty good. What did it cost to remove those or did you do it yourself? When I got the truck another owner told me it cost him $8000 to remove all the stuff. He also stated the same milage you reported after removal. If it costs that much, it would take way too long to recoup the cost using fuel savings.
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Old 05-23-2013, 04:13 PM
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It only cost me around 600 bucks for full turbo back exhaust, and egr/cooler delete kit. I didn't use a tuner, i just used EGT simulators to fool the computer into thinking the dpf is still present. i have a constant CEL but it runs just fine. its an 08 cummins, not sure what it costs to delete some of the other trucks. you can do it for under 100 bucks if all you do is have the dpf/nox filter replaced with 4'' pipe and unplug the EGR.
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