Register free!
Search
 
     

The Green Industry's Resource Center


Click for Weather
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-28-2013, 01:00 PM
Marshmallow's Avatar
Marshmallow Marshmallow is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: IL
Posts: 324
Need advice on Scag TT engine choice

Looking at a 61" TT. Can't decide between the Vanguard or the Kawasaki 791 DFI.

I don't care about initial cost or GPH. I want longevity and reliability plus ease of maintenance. I feel these two would be the most reliable choices.

What are your experiences with these engines? Would you choose different given the choice again?

Thanks for the advice guys!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-28-2013, 01:18 PM
Ridin' Green Ridin' Green is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Michigan
Posts: 8,503
The 35 Vangaurd is a proven engine, and has power to spare. That would be my first choice over any other option, especially based off what you posted.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-28-2013, 02:26 PM
dathorpe dathorpe is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Marshall, Va.
Posts: 338
If you don't care about gph, it's a no brainer. The 35 Briggs is the way to go. I own both, a 29 EFI Kohler and a 35 Briggs and if fuel consumption weren't a concern, I'd have all 35 Briggs mowers. I chose the 29 Kohler over the 791 Kaw because I didn't want to deal with liquid cooled, I also believe the 791 Kaw is over-priced, ... and because I actually prefer Kohler.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-28-2013, 02:39 PM
djagusch djagusch is offline
LawnSite Gold Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: MN
Posts: 3,440
The fd791 has the longest mfg run. 03 I think was the first year. It is basically a fd750 also which goes back to 2000.

If you cut thick stuff go briggs, if you mow often then go kawi. Also the LQ has a much different sound then the ac motors. I personally grab my LQ kawi engines as its queiter even through ear muffs.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-28-2013, 02:43 PM
Marshmallow's Avatar
Marshmallow Marshmallow is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: IL
Posts: 324
I have heard some guys had issues with the 31 Kohler aegis. This is why I choose the Kawasaki for a efi choice.

The downside of the Kawasaki is the engine is only actually 26 horse.

Do you think the vanguard is as reliable as the Kawasaki?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-28-2013, 02:52 PM
Ridin' Green Ridin' Green is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Michigan
Posts: 8,503
The Vanguard is as good as it gets for an engine. No brands other than Kawi are rating their engines correctly yet. Kohler is starting to, but they put it in tiny print at the bottom of their spec charts. They still post the old rating up top in larger print which is bogus and misleading. B&S is stilll doing it too, even on the Vanguard the 35 is still a very powerful engine.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-28-2013, 07:19 PM
dathorpe dathorpe is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Marshall, Va.
Posts: 338
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshmallow View Post
I have heard some guys had issues with the 31 Kohler aegis. This is why I choose the Kawasaki for a efi choice.

The downside of the Kawasaki is the engine is only actually 26 horse.

Do you think the vanguard is as reliable as the Kawasaki?
There were issues with the 31 Kohler and it's been discontinued... and...it was a liquid cooled engine. As I said, I don't want anything to do with liquid cooled. I think the vanguard is currently one of the most respected engines available.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-29-2013, 07:47 AM
Marshmallow's Avatar
Marshmallow Marshmallow is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: IL
Posts: 324
After reading up on the Kawasaki and vanguard both need more maintenance than the 31 Kohler. Valve checks every 300 hours on Kawasaki and every 250 on vanguard.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-29-2013, 11:17 AM
Ridin' Green Ridin' Green is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Michigan
Posts: 8,503
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshmallow View Post
After reading up on the Kawasaki and vanguard both need more maintenance than the 31 Kohler. Valve checks every 300 hours on Kawasaki and every 250 on vanguard.
But they don't make the 31 anymore, so that is kind of a moot point....right LOL.

Kohler has it's share of problems as well, like smoking on start up way more than the other two do as a general rule. My last one was so bad, they had to replace it under warranty with only 50 hours on it. I like the hydraulic lifters, but no more Kohlers for me thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-29-2013, 12:27 PM
Marshmallow's Avatar
Marshmallow Marshmallow is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: IL
Posts: 324
what other brand of mower offers a engine with hydraulic lifters?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1998 - 2012, LawnSite.comô - Moose River Media
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:35 PM.

Page generated in 0.07963 seconds with 9 queries