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Old 05-03-2013, 12:36 AM
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The cheaper guy got the job

I just got the call yesterday.
The grass was about knee high in places when I went to give the estimate.
They insisted it be done before the weekend.
I went out of my way to make 'room' for them.
My quote: $45 to leave it looking nice.

And then I never got a call to let me know.

So when I arrived today to do the job they agreed for me to do...
I was shocked to see one of the worst hack jobs I have seen in all of my years.

So, I called them to let them know that I did not do it, to please not mistake what this yard looks like with anything I would do because I would never leave anything looking like this disaster as this isn't the kind of work ethic I subscribe to.

I also took pictures of what it looked like ...
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:08 AM
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Man, that's terrible. And someone got paid for that?
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:22 AM
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I always knew you did hack jobs. LOL j/k At $45 to cut a knee high lawn is cheap. Can't imagine doing that place for $45 unless it was under control.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:24 AM
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I'm sure they wanted it scalped. The guy coulda blown the clippings off the street, though.

These are customers you don't want anyways. No loss.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:39 AM
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I'm sure they wanted it scalped. The guy coulda blown the clippings off the street, though.

These are customers you don't want anyways. No loss.
Seriously? He quoted a price of $45 to cut a lawn that size that was way over grown. I'm thinking these ARE the customers he wants/does. I would have priced that as a clean up and charged over $100.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:44 AM
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Seriously? He quoted a price of $45 to cut a lawn that size that was way over grown. I'm thinking these ARE the customers he wants/does. I would have priced that as a clean up and charged over $100.
Yes, seriously. These are the slow payers/no payers. If they're ok with their yard looking like that then I think we can stereotype them.
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:12 AM
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Seriously? He quoted a price of $45 to cut a lawn that size that was way over grown. I'm thinking these ARE the customers he wants/does. I would have priced that as a clean up and charged over $100.
In another thread I pointed out to H that his prices maybe too low.

I am saying this here not to bash H. I think he needs to reflect on why people are willing to wait months before he can do a job for them.

LCO's are too busy if there is hardly any other LCO's in his area, he does too notch quality work, or his prices are too low.

I have yet to hear of an LCO not complain that there is a shortage of competition.

I do not doubt that his work speaks for himself.

But being there are no shotage of LCO's in his area and some of them do match his quality of work and knowledge so it is still pointing towards that his price structure needs to be reexamined.

I was getting the 1/4 and 1/3 acre lawns. Though I was losing out on the 1/2 and bigger. So I reflected on why the poor success on the larger lawns.

So this year I reworked my estimating process that did not effect the smaller property prices though got me more in line with market on the larger properties.

Every one needs to rexamine their business on a yearly basis. No matter how many years the business has been going.

There always will be things that change the playing field.
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:13 AM
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you should feel good you didnt get that job, you saved yourself an hour of cleaning your mower deck...lol
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:14 AM
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Well yeah you guys have a point, and it did dawn on me later...
Especially when the guy said to me "but for that price you better run over it twice" as if trying to teach me something...
I should have known, and in ways I did, that I wasn't dealing with someone who was used to certain levels of service.
Right then I guess that could have been my clue, mostly because I always cut twice anyhow...

But the way I do it, I cut it once with blades set really high up...
That yard there, first time would have took three to four passes.
It would have looked really nice, other than after I am done the grass is still a little tall.

Then I cut it again two weeks later with blades set down a little lower.

Because there is NO way, and you know there isn't...
They would have paid $100 to have it done, not disagreeing that it's worth that, just most folks won't pay it.

So what I do is cut it once set high, $45
And two weeks later again, $35
Total: $80 and it's a month from today before anyone has to worry again.

Granted if things are really bad it MIGHT take three cuts before things are back to normal.
Even then the customer's only out $115 and they get 8 weeks from today before they have to mow it.

The way it's done now, who knows how much they paid for that, probably not much...
But two weeks from now they have to worry about it again AND it isn't going to be easy.
Those clumps will ruin what little lawn there was, once that's gone the yard will fill with weeds...
And I know they don't care but weeds grow FASTER than grass.

But some folks, you just can't get them to see the logic in things.

Then again they might hire the same hacks.

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Old 05-03-2013, 09:11 AM
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Well yeah you guys have a point, and it did dawn on me later...
Especially when the guy said to me "but for that price you better run over it twice" as if trying to teach me something...
I should have known, and in ways I did, that I wasn't dealing with someone who was used to certain levels of service.
Right then I guess that could have been my clue, mostly because I always cut twice anyhow...

But the way I do it, I cut it once with blades set really high up...
That yard there, first time would have took three to four passes.
It would have looked really nice, other than after I am done the grass is still a little tall.

Then I cut it again two weeks later with blades set down a little lower.

Because there is NO way, and you know there isn't...
They would have paid $100 to have it done, not disagreeing that it's worth that, just most folks won't pay it.

So what I do is cut it once set high, $45
And two weeks later again, $35
Total: $80 and it's a month from today before anyone has to worry again.

Granted if things are really bad it MIGHT take three cuts before things are back to normal.
Even then the customer's only out $115 and they get 8 weeks from today before they have to mow it.

The way it's done now, who knows how much they paid for that, probably not much...
But two weeks from now they have to worry about it again AND it isn't going to be easy.
Those clumps will ruin what little lawn there was, once that's gone the yard will fill with weeds...
And I know they don't care but weeds grow FASTER than grass.

But some folks, you just can't get them to see the logic in things.

Then again they might hire the same hacks.
I'm sure I wouldn't get the job but then again it would have been bagged and hauled away for my price so they "might" entertain the price, who knows. $45 is a good price for weekly service though.
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