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Old 08-05-2013, 02:36 PM
AintNoFun AintNoFun is online now
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Not very likely. Any G.C. doing a job this size is going to require a surety bond. You wouldn't hire someone for a job that big without that contractor being bonded. Hence my second scenario above.

we've done jobs in excess of 5 million and never provided a bond or have been asked. very uncommon.
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:35 PM
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we've done jobs in excess of 5 million and never provided a bond or have been asked. very uncommon.
yep.... usually only public works projects and institutional projects are the ones that require a bond. Never had to post one on a private job with any G.C. that we have worked with.
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:21 PM
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yep.... usually only public works projects and institutional projects are the ones that require a bond. Never had to post one on a private job with any G.C. that we have worked with.
Yea same here, public works are the only ones we work with that require a bond. Most of our clients jut require us to be members of Compliance Depot and have all our insurances in order.
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Old 08-06-2013, 08:47 AM
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So there is no way to protect yourself? What if you start the project and then a hurricane comes through and destroys everything mid project, causing the project price to double. Or possibly if the job takes longer because of construction delays. Is there something in the contract that saves you from unexpected circumstances?
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Old 08-06-2013, 03:55 PM
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Relax. Of course there are ways to protect yourself. In cases of Hurricanes, Acts of God, or other damage - that's what you carry liability insurance for.

And if you're smart, your contract would have something in it to protect you against unreasonable obstruction or delays as well.

But a certain amount of construction delays, having to work around other contractors, having to start a job and then being ordered to wait for a little bit until you continue - that's all part of commercial landscape construction. You have to plan for these things. And if you don't, it can really bite you in the a$$. This is where the experienced guys really know their stuff. I don't do commercial work anymore at all. But I have a good friend who owns one of the biggest commercial landscape companies in the state. And so having done them before and having this good friend who still does this, I'm fairly familiar with the process of how they bid jobs, what they plan for, how exactly perfect you have to know your numbers, etc.

It's not rocket science. But it you do have to be meticulous and really know your numbers up and down to consistently be profitable in the commercial market. It's REALLY low profit margins. So overlooking even something relatively small can cost you all of the profit for that job. Or even more, if you really mess up.
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