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Old 05-23-2013, 12:34 AM
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my narrowed down choices for new ZTR Advice???

OK I posted about the Big Dog vs Bob Cat but I have expanded some. here is what I am looking at getting. I absolutely have NO idea which way I am leaning.

Bigger mowers, would love and can afford, but not sure if really "needed". opportunity to save money by going with smaller yet totally sufficient. BUT these would be sweek!!
Big Dog R754
54" 23hp Kawasaki, ZT 3100 transmissions, $4900

Gravely
ZT HD 60
60", 24h Kawasaki, ZT 3100 trans. $5199

OR the smaller versions

Gravely
ZT XL
54", 24hp kawasaki, ZT 2800 trans. $4199

Bob Cat
CRZ 61"
23hp Kawasaki, ZT 2800 trans, not sure price

CRZ 52"
21.5hp Kawasaki, ZT 2800 trans. $4300


I'm stuck on paying more for a low end commercial mower or save and get a very high end residential. I mow 3 acres of weedy country grass.currently have a Cub Zforce 50 that Im selling.
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:19 PM
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OK I posted about the Big Dog vs Bob Cat but I have expanded some. here is what I am looking at getting. I absolutely have NO idea which way I am leaning.

Bigger mowers, would love and can afford, but not sure if really "needed". opportunity to save money by going with smaller yet totally sufficient. BUT these would be sweek!!
Big Dog R754
54" 23hp Kawasaki, ZT 3100 transmissions, $4900

Gravely
ZT HD 60
60", 24h Kawasaki, ZT 3100 trans. $5199

OR the smaller versions

Gravely
ZT XL
54", 24hp kawasaki, ZT 2800 trans. $4199

Bob Cat
CRZ 61"
23hp Kawasaki, ZT 2800 trans, not sure price

CRZ 52"
21.5hp Kawasaki, ZT 2800 trans. $4300


I'm stuck on paying more for a low end commercial mower or save and get a very high end residential. I mow 3 acres of weedy country grass.currently have a Cub Zforce 50 that Im selling.
For the price of the Gravely ZT HD 60, you can get there new Pro Turn series. I was quoted $5299 for 60 inch cut with Kawasaki. Plus you get a little heavier duty hydros. I ended up paying a little more and going above the Pro Turn series to the 100 series.
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:05 AM
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I see your in Rolla. i dont know what dealers your looking at Family Center and ?
Dealer service means a lot. Also keep in mind if you buy out of the city limits and only pay county tax you can save another 2%

As mentioned the Gravely pro turns are a great machine for the money.
The Pro Turn 100 is in the 7000 range, but you get a Kaw FX engine and 3400 trans. Well worth it .
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:50 AM
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What if I can get you a New Rich MFG. Convertible mower, 52" w/27HP Kohler for less than any of these?
Or, a 48" or 52" with a Kawasaki for about the same price?

Let me know if you would like pricing!
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:41 PM
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For the price of the Gravely ZT HD 60, you can get there new Pro Turn series. I was quoted $5299 for 60 inch cut with Kawasaki. Plus you get a little heavier duty hydros. I ended up paying a little more and going above the Pro Turn series to the 100 series.
Not here I can't. They have a pro turn and it is 6K. for the pro turn 60.
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:42 PM
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What if I can get you a New Rich MFG. Convertible mower, 52" w/27HP Kohler for less than any of these?
Or, a 48" or 52" with a Kawasaki for about the same price?

Let me know if you would like pricing!
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sounds nice. but I don't think I want to get something without a dealer local.
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Old 05-25-2013, 09:40 PM
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Not here I can't. They have a pro turn and it is 6K. for the pro turn 60.
You are right. I got my numbers mixed up.
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Old 05-26-2013, 04:21 PM
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Last year I did a ton of research and demo'ing. I also mow about 3.5 acres of fairly rough ground. I found the 5k-6k price range to be the sweet spot between price and quality for this kind of duty. There seems to be too much corner-cutting to shave 1k off the price.

I nearly got a Gravely ZT HD 60 but ended up with a Husqvarna MZ 6128 because for 5K I got larger 23" tires, the 3400 series trans and a great dealer. However, I see that this year the specs are a little different with 22" tires and 3100 trans, so it may not have as much appeal for me this year. I do like it, though, and still could recommend it, but it doesn't have quite the bang/buck as last year.

Regarding price, remember that if you choose right, this mower will last maybe 15 years or more with good maintenance. You probably won't put more that maybe 30-35 hours per year on it, and anything in the 5-6k range should last 1000 hours or more easily. I'd go for the more durable transmission, BTW. They're not cheap to replace and get worked hard.

I wasn't sure between a 52" deck or 60", but I'm glad I got the 61. It does cut the time down, which is nice, but also the time put on the machine.

Given your options, I think I'd go for a Gravely ZT HD, but don't underestimate the value of a good dealer in the selection.
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Old 05-26-2013, 04:34 PM
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Gravely dealer is family center. Big dog dealer is a private small engine repair place that sells big dogs and bob cats. The small engine guy said he completes alk warranty work first. If hes working on something and I need warranty work done. He stops that job and gets warranty work finished.

Family center has been and will be around for a long time. They are like a pricate version of a tractor supply. They don't have abilty to haggle at all either.
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Old 05-26-2013, 04:46 PM
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BTW, be sure to demo anything you are interested in. You should at least be able to ride it around if not mow with it. Like cars, there are handling and comfort differences.
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