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Old 06-04-2013, 10:41 PM
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I will be getting a trailer to pull behind my ranger in a few
Months so I can pull my ztr around rather than have to use my cousins. What do I have to do in order to use the trailer on roads? I am very uninformed on this. I plan on buying a single axle 5x10 haulmark.
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Ranger? And a 5x10 trailer?

You'll be fine, they probably wont bother you, especially if you don't put any company logo or lettering on the truck.
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Old 06-04-2013, 10:46 PM
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Dot had been running around here like crazy. So far i have only seen big rigs pulled over.
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Old 06-05-2013, 12:12 AM
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I drive a 10,000 lb. rated truck during the day. If I am driving home and not being paid is it still a commerce truck?
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Old 06-05-2013, 06:09 AM
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I drive a 10,000 lb. rated truck during the day. If I am driving home and not being paid is it still a commerce truck?
Yes

And NO alcohol is to be in commercial trucks.
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Old 06-05-2013, 11:20 AM
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Yes

And NO alcohol is to be in commercial trucks.
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Ok thanks. How about a liquor delivery truck? It is a commercial vehicle.
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Old 06-05-2013, 03:31 PM
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Lets hope they dont stop me, dont have 4 points of contact to tie down mowers, but I see others with none. I should be alright
You don't need 4 point tiedowns unless the equipment is over 10K.

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if you meet 1 of the following conditions - you need DOT numbers.

i) if the vehicle is used in the commission of commerce, and if your truck GVW is factory rated for 10,000# or more

Not in Michigan. Not in quite a few other states. Not sure how many times we have to go over this. See map at link below.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registratio...tion-usdot.htm

ii) if the vehicle is used in the commission of commerce and if you're pulling a trailer and the combined weight is 10,000# or more. (nearly all 3/4 ton trucks pulling trailers with mowers exceed 10,000#)

Again, not in Michigan. And not in the states colored in gray above.

Many folks will say "the DOT laws vary state to state". This is not exactly true. First of all the FEDERAL DOT laws do NOT vary. They are the same in all 50 states. 2nd - the STATE DOT laws may vary, yes. However, most states simply adopt the Federal DOT laws.


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Not exactly, but there are different variations.

Throw in California which IS different.

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Ok thanks. How about a liquor delivery truck? It is a commercial vehicle.
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PS I know, I'm in for the wrath of DVS, and I won't wouldn't argue hardscapes with him whatsoever, in fact, I'd like to learn from him; but in this case, some of his information is flat out wrong. At least for MI.

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Old 06-05-2013, 07:05 PM
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I drive a 10,000 lb. rated truck during the day. If I am driving home and not being paid is it still a commerce truck?
No.

Oh ya DVS. Depending on the exact rating of the truck and trailer but you can easily operate combinations over 26k in commerce on a class C or D or E.

What aboot trailer over 10k though?

When your talking about exceeding 10k for DOT numbers etc it's based off of CGVWR, GVWR or GVW. Whatever is highest.
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:14 PM
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So glad they have better things to do than stop landscapers etc. DOT here goes after mainly dump trucks b
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:18 PM
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This yearís focus will be on vehicle brake systems and preventing driver fatigue by conducting hours-of-service compliance checks.
I find this funny seeing how I work in an industry that is specifically exempt from hours of service and can haul a hazardous material around the clock.
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:45 PM
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I just registered for DOT number and they said they will come by sometime in the next 18 months for a safety audit.
Has anyone gone through it and how bad was it?

Also they say you have to have 2 hours of drug and alcohol training/awareness and have random drug testing. How have you accomplished that?

Their rules are so vague or have so many I can't understand all that I need to do.
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