Register free!


Reply
 
Thread Tools   Display Modes
  #11  
Old 06-12-2013, 04:26 PM
promower's Avatar
promower promower is offline
LawnSite Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,221
DVS I am interested in seeing your super duper job cost estimating sheet if your willing to share.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-12-2013, 09:04 PM
alldayrj's Avatar
alldayrj alldayrj is online now
LawnSite Gold Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Long island, NY
Posts: 3,183
Quote:
Originally Posted by ztman View Post
Question, it sounds like you do a lot of installs, so when you received what I can assume was an extremely low material cost quote, didn't the hair on the back of your neck tell you something, or did you think you hit the land of cheap block?
It was my first wall solo. And my usual supplier (for pavers and stone) was 30 mins away. This guy was 5 minutes so I didn't give it a second thought. I had the low quote in writing but they wouldn't honor it. Now I won't even send customers there for free samples.
__________________
RJ All Day
Masonry and Landscapes
www.rjfalcone.com
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-12-2013, 10:06 PM
mrusk mrusk is offline
LawnSite Gold Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: northern jersey
Posts: 3,249
This is why you get every quote in writing. Also never phone in a order. Always email it or text it. Its also good to have a paper trail when the supplier screws up and you don't end up getting all the material you were suppose to.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-09-2013, 03:57 PM
PenningsLandscaping PenningsLandscaping is online now
LawnSite Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,104
Quote:
Originally Posted by DVS Hardscaper View Post
I have a friend that went to work for the parts department at a well known DC area Toyota dealership. He quoted someone the wrong price for an expensive part. He explained to me how it happened, which made sense to me. But the dealership withheld the difference from my buddy's paycheck. That didn't go over too well with my buddy because it was their computer system that prompted him to underprice the part.

So what I'm saying is these things do and can happen. But the supplier should honor the quote they have you. And anything else beyond that is between the management and the employee that mis-quoted.
Posted via Mobile Device
You have to honor the quotes you give customers, why shouldn't they? I hope this worked out for you
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-09-2013, 03:59 PM
PenningsLandscaping PenningsLandscaping is online now
LawnSite Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,104
Quote:
Originally Posted by promower View Post
I been using my same stone vendor for years, great relationship with them. They recently went with an online pricing book for all there materials, its been a bit of a learning curve and somewhat hard to navigate. I recently bid a larger wall project and needed to call my vendor with some price info. Long story short I was quoted wrong and lost 1k on materials when I was supposed make 1k on materials. My client had already given the go ahead for the project before I got my bill.
I cant/wont come back at my client asking for the extra money. My vendor somewhat worked with me on the material giving me free delivery (30 pallets) but thats a far cry from 1k. Any suggestions how to go about this? I feel at very least the difference should be split. Also this was not a written quote, only verbally over the phone.
I meant my last comment for you, hope this worked out. You bid on a job, and are expected to honor that price. They bid on the material, and they don't have to? You deserve that restitution.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 08-11-2013, 05:12 PM
promower's Avatar
promower promower is offline
LawnSite Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,221
This somewhat worked out, my supplier gave me some money back, about 40% After we finished the job the customer wanted us to install stairs with the same material. I informed them that the bid would change because I was misquoted originally. The customer reimbursed me the remaining 60% I had lost. I did not ask them to do this they just did it and we are also installing the stairs now in the fall.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-12-2013, 10:25 PM
zedosix's Avatar
zedosix zedosix is offline
LawnSite Silver Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Eastern Ontario
Posts: 2,429
This is what happens when you quote material and labour separate. I have never worked that way. If you are worried about losing a grand over a 30 pallet job, I think you were underpriced to start with. There are many ways to lose more than a grand on a job that size. Material misquotes being one!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-12-2013, 10:42 PM
DVS Hardscaper's Avatar
DVS Hardscaper DVS Hardscaper is online now
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: County Jail
Posts: 5,906
Quote:
Originally Posted by zedosix View Post
This is what happens when you quote material and labour separate. I have never worked that way. If you are worried about losing a grand over a 30 pallet job, I think you were underpriced to start with. There are many ways to lose more than a grand on a job that size. Material misquotes being one!
Canada to the United States. An Apple to Grapes comparison, in terms of markets.

In the Unites States the profit margins for hardscape work are slim to near nothing. There is no money in installing pavers. Unless you're in a market with a lot of what we call "old money". "Old money" means the kids have finished college, the parents have paid off their house, college loans, and have retired. They have saved up some money and NOW after all those years of spending it on the family.....they're going to spend it on theirselves and get what they been always wanting.

My market is so tight with the numbers that YES, I would be worried about losing $1,000.00 on a 30 pallet job.
__________________
"It's You vs. You"

"People Throw Rocks At Things That Shine"


My Equipment Brag List:

-1 CAT hat
-16 pairs of Hanes socks (the Heavy Duty model), many with holes.
-12 pairs of underwear, ranging from Joe Boxers to Jockey, many are in need of replacement. (no more photo requests please)
-hundreds of t-shirts. Some w/ grease stains, some torn & tattered.
-7 pairs of jeans, ranging from Levis to Polo to GAP. 1/2 of them have holes in 'em.
-1 belt
-1 pair of old worn out Nike shoes.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 08-12-2013, 10:58 PM
promower's Avatar
promower promower is offline
LawnSite Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,221
I did ok on the job, no one wants to lose money though especially when it was on material that was quoted wrong.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 08-12-2013, 11:13 PM
zedosix's Avatar
zedosix zedosix is offline
LawnSite Silver Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Eastern Ontario
Posts: 2,429
Quote:
Originally Posted by promower View Post
I did ok on the job, no one wants to lose money though especially when it was on material that was quoted wrong.
You need to mark up materials much more than what you are, or you need to get better pricing. How much discount do you guys typically get on your interlock purchases. The way I am reading things is if you don't make a dime on material, then why not just get the customer to purchase it. Let them deal with losing a grand.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1998 - 2012, LawnSite.comô - Moose River Media
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:35 PM.

Page generated in 0.07873 seconds with 7 queries