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Old 07-10-2013, 10:25 PM
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Do I need a 60"? If so, which one?

I'm looking at buying a new 60" ZT. I have 50 properties and one full time helper. A quarter of them are 3+ acres. Right now I have a 48" JD 710 and a 36" exmark WB for my smaller in town properties. I have been contemplating getting a 60" bc of the time it would save me on the bigger properties. The 48" has worked out last year and part of this year but I have doubled in business and I'm putting about 30-35 hours on the 48" a week. I'm looking at a kubota zd326 or a JD 930M. I'm leaning toward the JD but the kubota being diesel has me wondering. Keep in mind I'm all about cut quality in wet conditions. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:29 PM
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I would go bigger. I started out with a 60".
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:31 PM
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Do I need a 60"? If so, which one?

You can get a JD 997 with a 31hp yanmar diesel. It would be beast with a 60 inch deck. I have one with a 72" deck and it will walk through grass. I have cut fuel expense in half going to diesel.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:34 PM
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Do I need a 60"? If so, which one?

Cut is awesome in all conditions and I can put a 72" almost anywhere I could put the 61". Don't be afraid to go 72". Your mow time savings will be awesome
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:39 PM
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You can get a JD 997 with a 31hp yanmar diesel. It would be beast with a 60 inch deck. I have one with a 72" deck and it will walk through grass. I have cut fuel expense in half going to diesel.
Fuel expense savings is one of the reasons I'm wanting to go diesel. Guys are saying they getting 3/4 GPH. I am lucky if I get 1 1/4 GPH on my gas. The downfall is a normal maintenance of a gas is about a quarter of the cost.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:50 PM
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Get a Kubota ZD326 and you won't look back. But your issues with having to mow when it's wet will cause a problem of slippage on hills that don't drain properly..,
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:02 AM
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Get a Kubota ZD326 and you won't look back. But your issues with having to mow when it's wet will cause a problem of slippage on hills that don't drain properly..,
The reason I'm concerned about the wet conditions is bc I have ran a zd221 in wet conditions and the cut quality wasn't even close to my JD. I am sure it has to better with the 326 and 60" cut though. IMO all mowers will cut dry grass. Some better than others, but what separates a good mower from a great one is the ability to cut wet grass and still provide a good looking yard. We all know that a wet yard isn't going to look as nice as a dry one of course.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:25 AM
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They both have decent top end as I found recently while 'borrowing' some 52"s that most Ztr's apparently lack serious top speeds.
Bet that 48" of yours won't go past 8mph.
I have found even thou I don't cut much above 8mph that on bigger lots speed makes a HUGE difference, like say if I'm on one side of the ditch and have to travel all the way back to the other end of the lot.
Hate that crawling around 8mph crap, granted I'm spoiled but give me 10 mph and I'm happy.
Oh, we're talking 5-10 minutes per acre, top end makes a difference.

In that sense I am sure either one will do, I doubt the cut quality is much better or worse either way and I'm partial to Kubota but that Yanmar diesel speaks loudly, it sure does, not sure what type of diesel the Kubota has.

In terms of cut height the JD speaks of a 5" top cut, not sure how high the Kubota will go but to me higher is better.
If the Kubota will go 5.5" or higher that makes a difference, and if it won't go north of 4" my decision is on the JD.

Then I have to assume you have diesel experience...
Otherwise you're going to pay a diesel mechanic, and they're not cheap.
I suppose one could always learn.

Last but not least, dealer support and parts availability...
Those questions, I can't help you with parts but in terms of which dealer you prefer, that only you can answer.

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Old 07-11-2013, 09:43 PM
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Yea, I would definitely get a 60 if I were you. Demo everything you can get your hands on and see what does best in the conditions you mow in and go from there. Best of luck to you
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:24 PM
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I got alomost 2500 hrs on my 997. Maintenance costs are not really anymore than a gas engine. Normal conditions or this time of year, I average between 1/4-1/2 gallons of diesel per hour. It was a no brainer for me when i bought mine new in 2009. Now with that being said, the 997 has went up in "retail" price by about 5k since 2009. Is the savings worth it, yes if you keep your machines for a few years before trading or selling them.

Now a 997 with a 60" deck, don't do it. You will have no trimability which is important. The machine is too wide for a 60" deck, imo.
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