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Old 07-06-2013, 11:57 PM
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New Gravely 460 Questions

Took home new Gravely 460 today, and not really impressed.

Few questions if someone can answer them for me.

1. Does the adjustable baffles only come on 452?
2. Mine says it has Hydro-Gear® ZT-3400 Transaxles on sticker behind seat, but has 5400 written on Hydro gear underneath. Is that just a wrong sticker placed on machine?
3. Had a lot stragglers after 1 medium speed pass. Deck had no pitch, so I will adjust that. Is 1/4" pitch best?

Will be picking up Scag Turf Tiger 61" with 29HP EFI Monday and comparing it to decide which to purchase. Drove Scag some today and LOVED the cut, but liked the 31 HP Kawasaki better on Gravely.

For what it is worth, Gravely dealer is the largest in this region but had no idea about adjustable baffle or larger discharge chute. For that reason alone I almost went ahead and purchased the Scag but decided to wait till Monday to do a side by side comparison, only because of the high reviews I have seen on this site for Gravely.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:12 AM
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I demoed a 460 Last Tuesday by cutting half my yard. It cut very well at about three-quarter speed in very tall thick grass, with "not very sharp" blades. No stragglers.

I think it was a 36 Vanguard. I know the transmissions were 5400's.

I ended up buying the Scag Cheetah 61" Kawasaki 31 hp. I demoed the Cheetah the day after the 460. I found the Cheetah cut just as well, The suspension platform of the Cheetah performed just as well as the 460 Air Seat, and the cost was $2000 less.

Oppssss forgot..... 3.5 acres

I feel that I saved a serious chuck of change.....



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Old 07-07-2013, 02:07 AM
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Took home new Gravely 460 today, and not really impressed.

Few questions if someone can answer them for me.

1. Does the adjustable baffles only come on 452?
2. Mine says it has Hydro-Gear® ZT-3400 Transaxles on sticker behind seat, but has 5400 written on Hydro gear underneath. Is that just a wrong sticker placed on machine?
3. Had a lot stragglers after 1 medium speed pass. Deck had no pitch, so I will adjust that. Is 1/4" pitch best?
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1. If it does not have a adjustable baffle, then it is a older mower. Last year the X-Factor was not adjustable.
2. No idea
3. The best mower in the world, can leave a less than desirable cut, if not set up properly. It amazes me that on a demo, which the purpose of is to impress a potential buyer that dealers do not do more to make sure it will give the best results possible. So pitch the deck, 1/4" is usually the area to be, and make sure the blades are sharpened properly. Probably check your tire pressures as well while your at it.
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:14 AM
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Hawkshot99 summed it up perfect.

Sounds like last years model with the X-Factor 1 deck but it should still leave an amazing cut. The 400 series does come with 5400's. I will also add check for proper belt tension.

This is the cut quality you should be getting.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=382404
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:24 AM
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It does amaze me how little some of these dealers know!! If they are going to sell a product they need to be an expert on it. At the very least the machine needs to be set up properly with sharp blades. These factors can really affect someone's buying decision!!
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:12 AM
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It is this years model, with serial number greater than 20,000. Dealer is a pretty good friend of family and called regional rep for Gravely since he said he had no idea about new deck or adjustable baffles. Rep said all new machines had new deck now and told dealer this is the newest deck and machine. Dealer said the adjustable baffle must only come on 452, but that doesn't sound right to me. Is anybody SURE that the adjustable baffles come on a 460, and could somebody please provide me a picture of that on a 460.

GMLC, you and PROSTREETCAMARO and 2 of the reasons on this site that I was so stuck on getting a Gravely. The other is how quick a Gravely Rep on this site is always pretty quick to respond. But I must admit, I pretty aggravated with this machine already. Didn't think I should have to bring a brand new machine home, just to learn how to adjust the deck myself.

And HAWKSHOT99, thanks for the reply. Blades are brand new, actually the machine is brand new, only had .4 hours on meter when I got home with it. I can understand some things not being perfect, like a scratch or something, but you would think a dealer would have the deck SPOT ON since that is what everybody is really comparing. Unless the dealer's shop just don't know anything about pitch.
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:13 AM
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Actually this deck doesn't even have a baffle at all. Just wide open under there.
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:26 AM
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All X-Factor 2 decks have adjustable front baffles. ProStreet has them on his 460 and Mag360 does on his 472. And as you know I do on my 452. In fact all 100, 200, and 400 series machines do.

You would be surprised how many dealers have no clue on how to prep a machine correctly. If he doesnt even know about the new deck thats already a red flag!! Some dont even know about fleet pricing.
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:30 AM
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Here are the details on the new deck right from Gravely.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=397357
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:42 AM
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Here are some pics of the adjustable baffles from my XF2 thread.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=403947
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