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Old 07-18-2013, 09:17 PM
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Put a few hours on my Bad boy Outlaw XP

I hear allot of questions about the quality of cut. I have been cutting wet grass for two straight days. So far the quality of cut is excellent. Can't even tell I mowed the lawns wet. The blade speed with the 36 hp vanguard is awesome. Ground speed is way faster than I wanna go. It will cut that fast too, but I can't keep my lines straight. The mower isn't as stable on hills and in wet grass as my last mower. The suspension is incredible. I have a very bumpy property to mow on Saturday that is five acres. I am so looking forward to it. I like the fact that the top of the deck is flat as a board which allows me to blow it off without having to angle the blower in a hundred directions to get grass out of all the crevices. More to come.
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:22 PM
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I hear allot of questions about the quality of cut. I have been cutting wet grass for two straight days. So far the quality of cut is excellent. Can't even tell I mowed the lawns wet. The blade speed with the 36 hp vanguard is awesome. Ground speed is way faster than I wanna go. It will cut that fast too, but I can't keep my lines straight. The mower isn't as stable on hills and in wet grass as my last mower. The suspension is incredible. I have a very bumpy property to mow on Saturday that is five acres. I am so looking forward to it. I like the fact that the top of the deck is flat as a board which allows me to blow it off without having to angle the blower in a hundred directions to get grass out of all the crevices. More to come.
Any cut quality pics?
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:24 PM
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I say that on here all the time like banging my head against the wall. I am living it, I have so much trouble selling any brands sitting next to the bad boy, the prices are right for sure for what kinda machine they are smoking out of Batesville, Ar. I have found the Grasshopper is the only brand so far that is truly something different as far as machines are concerned. They are the first brand that some people are actually getting around here and feeling 100% about there purchase. We are going with Gravely to fill in alot of gaps that we have. I have mowed on the 460 and liked it a lot, and am a huge fan of the xl with 2800's for homeowners. I also love the fact they offer everything like push mowers etc. Fleet program is awesome $10k plus is fleet 20% off for entire year I think some holes will get filled with them, the GAP program is amazing, if you are broke down for more than one day Gravely steps in takes a hit on machines to help with the loaner program. I am hoping my biz will grow with this decision like it did with Grasshopper without just taking sales away from my dominant brand.
I am gonna enjoy putting them all through their paces, I have a 472 that will be here Monday, a 3572 bb, and a 430d 72 I will get to let everyone play on all 3. So far the gh and bb have been toss ups, the 4 cylinder by far slings the grass out better and the grammer standard and suspension are smoother ride with less rattles and vibrations, but there are so many more refinements on the hopper that keeps it in the running, longer warranty, better idler pullies, smoother looking cut, etc they are both really nice rides! I am blessed to mow my 3 acres on these beasts....lol.
I never dreamed of selling so many mowers, I am having a blast. I told my wife a couple years back "wouldn't it be cool if we could sell 360 a year 1 a day average? We would have a decent living...." We have completely blown that out of the water now these past 2 years in a row.....
Hyper drives are sick on the Hustler, scary fast mower.....
Did I read this right? Your taking on Gravely!! Combine your customer service with Gravely's and this will be amazing!! Your going to have a new customer...
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Old 07-19-2013, 12:51 AM
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Did I read this right? Your taking on Gravely!! Combine your customer service with Gravely's and this will be amazing!! Your going to have a new customer...
Its funny how many people i have met off here, i have had quite a few visit texas and come by to visit, and not to mention how many were fed up with their shopping experience and just asked me to meet them halfway...
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Old 07-19-2013, 01:06 AM
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Its funny how many people i have met off here, i have had quite a few visit texas and come by to visit, and not to mention how many were fed up with their shopping experience and just asked me to meet them halfway...
Hey, do you ship mowers at all (like Everything Attachments does, or at least did last I knew), or is it too cost prohibitive?
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:14 AM
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Its funny how many people i have met off here, i have had quite a few visit texas and come by to visit, and not to mention how many were fed up with their shopping experience and just asked me to meet them halfway...
Retro would you consider the GHopper 226v on the same level as the CZT Elite?
I'm looking at GHopper and the Duramax deck , have not seen 1 in person yet, just want an opinion between the 2.

Congrats Hotdog on your new mower!
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Old 07-19-2013, 03:40 PM
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I never dreamed of selling so many mowers, I am having a blast. I told my wife a couple years back "wouldn't it be cool if we could sell 360 a year 1 a day average? We would have a decent living...." We have completely blown that out of the water now these past 2 years in a row.....
Hyper drives are sick on the Hustler, scary fast mower.....
I'm supposing this was meant to say something else, because as you and I both know, there is no hydraulic system in the zero-turn market that will touch the HyperDrive. You can't put a 3000 hr. or 5 yr. warranty on any mower hydraulic system unless you are 100% sure it is virtually fail-proof.
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Old 07-19-2013, 04:10 PM
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I'm supposing this was meant to say something else, because as you and I both know, there is no hydraulic system in the zero-turn market that will touch the HyperDrive. You can't put a 3000 hr. or 5 yr. warranty on any mower hydraulic system unless you are 100% sure it is virtually fail-proof.
Retro was using the term in the modern street slang meaningawesome, great, etc etc.

No doubt the HD system is heavy duty, and I don't believe anyone would dispute that, but it's not that hard to understand how they can offer that warranty, at least from a marketing standpoint. The warranty is valid for the original purchaser only as per Hustler, plus it appears they have left themselves plenty of outs from the warranty based off their own wording of it below-


"IMPORTANT: The hydraulic components are covered by a
five (5) year (3000 hour) limited warranty, to the original purchaser
only
. Proof of proper hydraulic system maintenance may be required before warranty credit is allowed. Proof may
consist of, but is not limited to, the following items; regularly
scheduled and performed hydraulic system oil and filter changes
and use of Hustler® Turf Equipment approved parts only. All warranty repair and service must be handled through an
authorized Hustler® Dealer. Arrangements should be made
through your local service center."


They know that the vast majority of buyers will be LCO's who will sell off, or trade in their equipment every 2-4 years. Very few will ever have the ability to test that warranty to more than 50% of its limit since the hours built up during their ownership of a machine will generally be much less because most LCO's prefer to stay well below that level of hours for reliability/lack of down time reasons, and a higher trade-in or resale value. They know this based off the hours that are seen on an average of all trade in machines over a given time period. I know a man who owned an outdoor power equipment dealership here that I became fairly good friends with once relayed that info to me, and he was speaking of the entire industry as a whole using this general practice of offering similar enticements to potential buyers since he sold several different brands at his location, and had sold many others over the past 25+ years at other dealerships before opening his own store.

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Old 07-19-2013, 04:30 PM
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Retro was using the term in the modern street slang meaningawesome, great, etc etc.

No doubt the HD system is heavy duty, and I don't believe anyone would dispute that, but it's not that hard to understand how they can offer that warranty, at least from a marketing standpoint. The warranty is valid for the original purchaser only as per Hustler, plus it appears they have left themselves plenty of outs from the warranty based off their own wording of it below-


"IMPORTANT: The hydraulic components are covered by a
five (5) year (3000 hour) limited warranty, to the original purchaser
only
. Proof of proper hydraulic system maintenance may be required before warranty credit is allowed. Proof may
consist of, but is not limited to, the following items; regularly
scheduled and performed hydraulic system oil and filter changes
and use of Hustler® Turf Equipment approved parts only. All warranty repair and service must be handled through an
authorized Hustler® Dealer. Arrangements should be made
through your local service center."


They know that the vast majority of buyers will be LCO's who will sell off, or trade in their equipment every 2-4 years. Very few will ever have the ability to test that warranty to more than 50% of its limit since the hours built up during their ownership of a machine will generally be much less because most LCO's prefer to stay well below that level of hours for reliability/lack of down time reasons, and a higher trade-in or resale value. They know this based off the hours that are seen on an average of all trade in machines over a given time period. I know a man who owned an outdoor power equipment dealership here that I became fairly good friends with once relayed that info to me, and he was speaking of the entire industry as a whole using this general practice of offering similar enticements to potential buyers since he sold several different brands at his location, and had sold many others over the past 25+ years at other dealerships before opening his own store.



Hustler had to do something to try and instill confidence in the hydro system because prior to the hyper drive all I ever heard on here was another hydro failed on a hustler. It seemed like it was almost a daily occurrence.
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Old 07-19-2013, 04:40 PM
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Hustler had to do something to try and instill confidence in the hydro system because prior to the hyper drive all I ever heard on here was another hydro failed on a hustler. It seemed like it was almost a daily occurrence.
Not to hijack the OP's thread too far off course, but yea, between their hydro and deck issues, they've had their share of problems for sure. I guess maybe they felt a high hour warranty would help alleviate some of that bad rep.
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