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Old 12-03-2005, 12:42 PM
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Wa is required to sell low sulfur diesal at all pumps now, even at the offroad ones.
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:34 PM
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Jon, is this new legislation for washington state?, because I've not heard this before. It just so happens my Pettit bill came today and there's lines for both high sulfur off road and low sulfur road diesel. Even the CFN (Pettit is part of CFN) off road pumps I use still say "high sulfur".
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:40 PM
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Jon, is this new legislation for washington state?, because I've not heard this before. It just so happens my Pettit bill came today and there's lines for both high sulfur off road and low sulfur road diesel. Even the CFN (Pettit is part of CFN) off road pumps I use still say "high sulfur".
Perhaps I'm wrong, I just know that the one station I can get pink at here says "low sulfur offroad" on the pump.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:05 PM
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I think that the next set of EPA regulations for '06 or '07 will require the off road diesel to be low sulfur diesel as well. I wouldn't worry about either hurting the engine components, alot of the diesel engines out there are used in both on road and off road applications with the main difference being the difference to meet the difference in EPA regulations.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:30 PM
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Mack will be producing a 16 liter, 700 HP engine developing 1600 ft lbs of torque at 1900 RPM for 2007. It uses a Maxidyne variable pitch turbo that is calibrated to the amount of weight the truck will pull under various conditions.

They completely redesigned the engine to accept sulfurless fuels without eating the injection pump and valves prematurely.
We have a dilema upon us with the extraction of sulfer from fuels. The process is similar to the way that coffee is freeze-dryed. The result, is tiny microscopic particles left behind that wear injection pumps and valves faster in engines that were designed with the intent that sulfer would be used as a lubricant. A band-aid fix is to run a good fuel conditioner or a similar additive. What the liberoids in the EPA failed to do once again was add some very important criteria when they pulled their numbers on particulants from diesel exhaust. They tested brand new engines on dynos in laboratory conditions. what they forgot is that by running the engines with the new fuels, they will wear out fster than with sulfer. When you test the same diesel after 300,000miles running sulferless fuels, the additional wear and looser tolerances produced more garbage than the engine running sulfer fuel with the same milage. Now, in reality, you got an independant trucker eeecking out his living with a rig. If his truck is still running well, do you think for a minute, he will down it to exchange a $3,000.00 injector pump? Nope. he is going to keep running it until it shows loss of power. So, once again, our government hard at work to screw up what worked very well.
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Old 12-29-2005, 10:43 AM
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I was told today that you couldn't switch from the two fuels. You could use one or the other but if you switch it will cause the O rings in the pump to swell and damage the pump.
This person also said the he got better performance from "on road" fuel.
Is this true????????
How can switching between paying and not paying tax on it cause a problem?
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Old 12-29-2005, 10:48 AM
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Just don't get caught with the off road fuel in your on road truck $$$$$ fees.

Yes the farm fuel is higher in sulfur and it has a dye so it can be detected.

I use the on ON road fuel in all my diesel's including my tractor.
There is no sulfur in the red dye.
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Old 12-29-2005, 10:57 AM
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[QUOTE=o-so-n-so]1*I also bought a new tractor this week and thought I would run off road fuel in it as well. Is this legal?
2* Should I go back to "on road" fuel for any reason?QUOTE]

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1*It certainly is. The rip off that irks me is that all the gas stations charge me tax for off road use.
2*Only if you like paying for something you're not getting.
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Old 12-29-2005, 11:20 AM
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OK, here's the down low on on an off road diesel fuel. The only difference is the added dye. The cetane rating is the same as well as the sulfer content.
1*The only reason for the dye is taxation plain an simple. .
1*What it boils down to is there is only one fuel with 2 prices on it.
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Old 12-29-2005, 11:24 AM
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what is another name for off road diesel
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